[SOLVED] Oblivion Doors and flames

Cogito · 08-22-2007, 01:18 AM

I've been playing Oblivion for some time now and this bug just started cropping up.

The flames have stopped moving, along with water and similar animations. I'm able to move around freely in the world, so the 3d rendering is ok, just the animations.

Worst of all, when I open a door, the door opens so slowly (maybe 1 frame in 5 seconds) that it is nearly impossible to get through it.

If I go back to an earlier saved game, the problem disappears. I don't know why this bug happened, but it infects the savegames. The thing is, going back to the older savegames just means that it takes a while for the problem to appear again, and appear again, it does.

It's not a video problem because it only affects later savegames. I suspect it's similar to the problem that was introduced by the Shivering Isles add-on. So far, though, I haven't seen any other posts on this bug.

**koala** · 08-22-2007, 07:56 AM

Hi Cogito, welcome to TSF

Apart from Shivering Isles, do you have any other mods, patches or cracks installed? Have you tried reinstalling the basic Oblivion with no add-ons or alterations?

**pharoah** · 08-22-2007, 11:25 AM

did you install the newest patch yet.

Cogito · 08-22-2007, 02:19 PM

The last patch I installed was the official one that fixed the bug with Shivering Isles. If there are any more patches after this, I haven't found them. If you have a link, I'd be much obliged.

I had reinstalled the game a few times while working around the Shiver Isles bug. I do not want to do this again, as I'd have to go back to saved games before the SI and the other add-ons were installed, thus losing a lot of experience, which I'd have to redo. I've already completed the SI storyline twice.

Besides: I can't rely on a solution that doesn't address the cause of the problem, and I haven't established that cause, yet.

Has no one else seen this kind of behavior?

**pharoah** · 08-22-2007, 03:47 PM

http://www.elderscrolls.com/download...es_patches.htm

not sure which patch you have,but there is a link to the official patches.

Cogito · 08-22-2007, 07:55 PM

Thanks, I have that patch, then. So, that would seem to be the latest one, which means, the patch that I'm guessing I need hasn't been created yet.

I could uninstall and reinstall everything, as I mentioned, but I don't know what the problem is, so I don't know that this would fix it.

**pharoah** · 08-23-2007, 12:47 AM

personally that is what i would do is a reinstall.

Cogito · 08-23-2007, 08:53 PM

OK, I think it has something to do with the time played or something, similar to the Shivering Isles bug.

I managed to save the game about 5 seconds before the flames stop. Every time I load this game, I can wait a few seconds, and the flames stop. Once they stop, they either don't move at all, or they move only one frame every few seconds. This holds for other animations, like smoke effects, spell effects (Invisibility leaves a small green static cloud behind) and doors.

If I load games prior to this, then it works fine, but I imagine that when I reach the same playing time as this save, the animations will stop again.

I think re-installing will not help, because it has something to do with the savegames or the amount of time played, which wouldn't change unless I dropped all my savegames and started over again with a new character (then I'd just have to dread the same thing happening again later, anyway).

Cogito · 08-23-2007, 10:47 PM

Well, I found an answer on another forum. I'm posting it here because if anyone else has this problem they can benefit.

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=688265

The upshot is, there is a bug. A lot of people have noticed it. There is no official patch, but there is an independent bug-fix program that some saintly programmer made that is a temporary solution. It seems to have something to do with the amount of time played...kind of like the SI issue.

Faster framerates lead to this problem faster.

**pharoah** · 08-24-2007, 12:24 PM

glad ya got it fixed

Indoril Nerevar · 08-24-2007, 07:31 PM

Thanks for posting the solution, Cogito. I'll add it to our archive of solutions, so we can use it to help people in future. Much appreciated.

08-22-2007, 01:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cogito Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP	[SOLVED] Oblivion Doors and flames I've been playing Oblivion for some time now and this bug just started cropping up. The flames have stopped moving, along with water and similar animations. I'm able to move around freely in the world, so the 3d rendering is ok, just the animations. Worst of all, when I open a door, the door opens so slowly (maybe 1 frame in 5 seconds) that it is nearly impossible to get through it. If I go back to an earlier saved game, the problem disappears. I don't know why this bug happened, but it infects the savegames. The thing is, going back to the older savegames just means that it takes a while for the problem to appear again, and appear again, it does. It's not a video problem because it only affects later savegames. I suspect it's similar to the problem that was introduced by the Shivering Isles add-on. So far, though, I haven't seen any other posts on this bug.

08-22-2007, 07:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,344 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames Hi Cogito, welcome to TSF Apart from Shivering Isles, do you have any other mods, patches or cracks installed? Have you tried reinstalling the basic Oblivion with no add-ons or alterations? __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

08-22-2007, 11:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames did you install the newest patch yet. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-22-2007, 02:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cogito Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames The last patch I installed was the official one that fixed the bug with Shivering Isles. If there are any more patches after this, I haven't found them. If you have a link, I'd be much obliged. I had reinstalled the game a few times while working around the Shiver Isles bug. I do not want to do this again, as I'd have to go back to saved games before the SI and the other add-ons were installed, thus losing a lot of experience, which I'd have to redo. I've already completed the SI storyline twice. Besides: I can't rely on a solution that doesn't address the cause of the problem, and I haven't established that cause, yet. Has no one else seen this kind of behavior?

08-22-2007, 03:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames http://www.elderscrolls.com/download...es_patches.htm not sure which patch you have,but there is a link to the official patches. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-22-2007, 07:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cogito Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames Thanks, I have that patch, then. So, that would seem to be the latest one, which means, the patch that I'm guessing I need hasn't been created yet. I could uninstall and reinstall everything, as I mentioned, but I don't know what the problem is, so I don't know that this would fix it.

08-23-2007, 12:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames personally that is what i would do is a reinstall. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-23-2007, 08:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cogito Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames OK, I think it has something to do with the time played or something, similar to the Shivering Isles bug. I managed to save the game about 5 seconds before the flames stop. Every time I load this game, I can wait a few seconds, and the flames stop. Once they stop, they either don't move at all, or they move only one frame every few seconds. This holds for other animations, like smoke effects, spell effects (Invisibility leaves a small green static cloud behind) and doors. If I load games prior to this, then it works fine, but I imagine that when I reach the same playing time as this save, the animations will stop again. I think re-installing will not help, because it has something to do with the savegames or the amount of time played, which wouldn't change unless I dropped all my savegames and started over again with a new character (then I'd just have to dread the same thing happening again later, anyway).

08-23-2007, 10:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cogito Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 OS: XP	Re: Oblivion Doors and flames Well, I found an answer on another forum. I'm posting it here because if anyone else has this problem they can benefit. http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/in...owtopic=688265 The upshot is, there is a bug. A lot of people have noticed it. There is no official patch, but there is an independent bug-fix program that some saintly programmer made that is a temporary solution. It seems to have something to do with the amount of time played...kind of like the SI issue. Faster framerates lead to this problem faster.

08-24-2007, 12:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: [SOLVED] Oblivion Doors and flames glad ya got it fixed __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-24-2007, 07:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	Re: [SOLVED] Oblivion Doors and flames Thanks for posting the solution, Cogito. I'll add it to our archive of solutions, so we can use it to help people in future. Much appreciated. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.