3dmark

**emosun** · 08-18-2007, 05:37 PM

my 3dmark 06 skips and goes slow no matter what i do. even if i turn the resolution all the way down to 320x200 it still skips and wont play smooth. so i was thinking its probly the ram or processor then. but the processor doesnt even go past 50% and the ram isnt at its max either. i shud have plenty of power to run it smooth but dont know whats wrong.

**Jack.Sparrow** · 08-18-2007, 05:49 PM

What about your graphics card?

**pharoah** · 08-18-2007, 06:47 PM

i agree with the resident pirate

its probably that video card.

**emosun** · 08-19-2007, 05:49 AM

thats just the thing, i ran it on 320x200 with no extra visual effects and it goes the same speed as when its on 1024x768 with the extra effects. the same speed but still glitches. all my other games i can run at full without them glitching up. i was thinking could the mhz of my ram be slowing it down?

Indoril Nerevar · 08-19-2007, 06:58 AM

Hi,

3DMark06 requires a minimum of 1GB of RAM to run - I'd say that's your issue, since you only have 768MB. Upgrading to 1GB or more should fix the problem.

**emosun** · 09-16-2007, 04:26 AM

ok its been a while but i installed 2gb of ram and its still going slow. any ideas?

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 09-16-2007, 10:13 AM

Are these the cpu tests? your not going to see a system that does them fast

**pharoah** · 09-16-2007, 10:56 AM

as owned said exactly what part of the test skips?is it the cpu tests,or all of it.

**emosun** · 09-16-2007, 02:35 PM

no i dont do the cpu test because those do go really slow. im just doing the graphics tests

**pharoah** · 09-16-2007, 02:43 PM

ok lets try this http://www.techsupportforum.com/arti...rsviewpro.html post back the temp,and voltage readings under both idle,and load.

**emosun** · 09-16-2007, 03:05 PM

ok i dont think this program is working, it shows the cpu at 170*F then itll be 30 ,then 100, then 80. also its showing the 12v is at 10.40v. i think thats a broken sensor because i dont think it would even run that low. but anyway here the idle and the load.

Indoril Nerevar · 09-16-2007, 04:16 PM

Hi,

Download Everest (in my signature) and check the temps and voltages with that (under Computer -> Sensor). If the +12V rail really is at 10.40V (which can happen), then that is your problem, as it means the power supply is underpowering the graphics card.

**emosun** · 09-16-2007, 04:36 PM

yea i have everest. it also says 10.40v. i can run games like DiRt and comand and conquer 3 on full settings, i can even play halo2 on the highest setting which is 1920x1200. if my power supply can power my games and ati demos and such, why cant it power 3dmark on 320x200?

Indoril Nerevar · 09-16-2007, 04:57 PM

It may just be that 3DMark is the one thing the problems show up in. Underpowered video cards can run games fine for a while, but the eventual result is a dead video card. Since the video card isn't the only thing which runs off the +12V rail, you're also going to end up with other dead components.

The fact that both Everest and SensorsView show the +12V rail at 10.40V means they are reading it correctly. If you want a third check, you could buy a power supply tester, but I don't think that's necessary.

If the power supply is under warranty, send it back to get it fixed or replaced. If it's not under warranty any more, you'll need to buy a new one. Looking at your specs, I highly recommend that if you do buy a new one, you get a 550W or higher, as that's really what you should be running that system on. 430W is a bit low for your specs.

**emosun** · 09-16-2007, 06:16 PM

im soon going to be upgradeing to a pci-e mother board and a radeon 2600xt. is 550W going to be enoupgh for that?
and if i upgrade to that will 3dmark finally work?

**pharoah** · 09-16-2007, 10:37 PM

id go for something like this power supply to be on the safe side.

**emosun** · 09-19-2007, 11:24 PM

just an update, ive got the radeon HD 2600xt with the ice q cooling thing on it , and im now just waiting for the motherboard. should be here late tommorow. will let you know if this helps. says it only needs a 400wat power supply so i should be coverd

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 09-20-2007, 07:41 AM

Thats saying that everything else in your computer takes less then 20w whitch it does not.

**pharoah** · 09-20-2007, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 g0t 0wn3d

Thats saying that everything else in your computer takes less then 20w whitch it does not.

sounds right to me! dude get the power supply i listed a few posts up.that way we know the power supply wont be a problem.

**emosun** · 09-21-2007, 02:52 AM

ok , i got the new motherboard. and i had to do a bit of modding to get it to fit in the case becasue its huge. and i installed the 2600xt. 3dmark does work now and i got a score of about 4500. it could do better. it also plays pretty smooth

my 12v is now at 11.40v. which is higher but i do agree i need a new power supply. i do like the one you showed me, those antec trios are great. the one i have now is an antec trio and has served me well. but i cant dump 130$ on a power supply. because i spent it on the video card lol. so i was wondering if you could find a powersupply thats still good but alot cheaper, at least half the price. i saw this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817163018

its a deamon just like my case, it has same paint and fans as my case, has all the hookups i need, and should be powerfull enouph. what do you think?

08-18-2007, 05:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	3dmark my 3dmark 06 skips and goes slow no matter what i do. even if i turn the resolution all the way down to 320x200 it still skips and wont play smooth. so i was thinking its probly the ram or processor then. but the processor doesnt even go past 50% and the ram isnt at its max either. i shud have plenty of power to run it smooth but dont know whats wrong.

08-18-2007, 05:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jack.Sparrow Resident Pirate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Qld, Aus Posts: 17,867 OS: XP SP3/Vista SP1 My System Blog Entries: 6	Re: 3dmark What about your graphics card? __________________ //PC Wizard//Speedfan//Can you run it?//Posting Screenshots//Posting System Specs//Donations//

08-18-2007, 06:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: 3dmark i agree with the resident pirate its probably that video card. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-19-2007, 05:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark thats just the thing, i ran it on 320x200 with no extra visual effects and it goes the same speed as when its on 1024x768 with the extra effects. the same speed but still glitches. all my other games i can run at full without them glitching up. i was thinking could the mhz of my ram be slowing it down? Last edited by emosun; 08-19-2007 at 05:51 AM.

08-19-2007, 06:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	Re: 3dmark Hi, 3DMark06 requires a minimum of 1GB of RAM to run - I'd say that's your issue, since you only have 768MB. Upgrading to 1GB or more should fix the problem. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

09-16-2007, 04:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark ok its been a while but i installed 2gb of ram and its still going slow. any ideas?

09-16-2007, 10:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: 3dmark Are these the cpu tests? your not going to see a system that does them fast __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-16-2007, 10:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: 3dmark as owned said exactly what part of the test skips?is it the cpu tests,or all of it. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-16-2007, 02:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark no i dont do the cpu test because those do go really slow. im just doing the graphics tests

09-16-2007, 02:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: 3dmark ok lets try this http://www.techsupportforum.com/arti...rsviewpro.html post back the temp,and voltage readings under both idle,and load. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-16-2007, 04:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	Re: 3dmark Hi, Download Everest (in my signature) and check the temps and voltages with that (under Computer -> Sensor). If the +12V rail really is at 10.40V (which can happen), then that is your problem, as it means the power supply is underpowering the graphics card. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

09-16-2007, 04:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark yea i have everest. it also says 10.40v. i can run games like DiRt and comand and conquer 3 on full settings, i can even play halo2 on the highest setting which is 1920x1200. if my power supply can power my games and ati demos and such, why cant it power 3dmark on 320x200?

09-16-2007, 04:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	Re: 3dmark It may just be that 3DMark is the one thing the problems show up in. Underpowered video cards can run games fine for a while, but the eventual result is a dead video card. Since the video card isn't the only thing which runs off the +12V rail, you're also going to end up with other dead components. The fact that both Everest and SensorsView show the +12V rail at 10.40V means they are reading it correctly. If you want a third check, you could buy a power supply tester, but I don't think that's necessary. If the power supply is under warranty, send it back to get it fixed or replaced. If it's not under warranty any more, you'll need to buy a new one. Looking at your specs, I highly recommend that if you do buy a new one, you get a 550W or higher, as that's really what you should be running that system on. 430W is a bit low for your specs. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

09-16-2007, 06:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark im soon going to be upgradeing to a pci-e mother board and a radeon 2600xt. is 550W going to be enoupgh for that? and if i upgrade to that will 3dmark finally work?

09-16-2007, 10:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: 3dmark id go for something like this power supply to be on the safe side. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-19-2007, 11:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark just an update, ive got the radeon HD 2600xt with the ice q cooling thing on it , and im now just waiting for the motherboard. should be here late tommorow. will let you know if this helps. says it only needs a 400wat power supply so i should be coverd Last edited by emosun; 09-19-2007 at 11:25 PM.

09-20-2007, 07:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: 3dmark Thats saying that everything else in your computer takes less then 20w whitch it does not. __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

09-21-2007, 02:52 AM	#20 (permalink)
emosun Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: usa Posts: 6,948 OS: xp pro sp2 My System	Re: 3dmark ok , i got the new motherboard. and i had to do a bit of modding to get it to fit in the case becasue its huge. and i installed the 2600xt. 3dmark does work now and i got a score of about 4500. it could do better. it also plays pretty smooth my 12v is now at 11.40v. which is higher but i do agree i need a new power supply. i do like the one you showed me, those antec trios are great. the one i have now is an antec trio and has served me well. but i cant dump 130$ on a power supply. because i spent it on the video card lol. so i was wondering if you could find a powersupply thats still good but alot cheaper, at least half the price. i saw this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817163018 its a deamon just like my case, it has same paint and fans as my case, has all the hookups i need, and should be powerfull enouph. what do you think?