All games randomly crashing similar problem

mcer1 · 08-17-2007, 01:46 PM

Sorry Scar, not trying to step on your toes, but I am having a similar problem with a PC. I just figured everyone could help us both at the same time. Games keep randomly crashing to desktop. Playing any game, no sounds, no warning, just crashed to desktop and the game window is gone and of course I receive a send report option to Microsoft. This my brother's cpu, so I will gather his info and post it later. I appreciate any ideas. Could this be overheating(video card or RAM or something) or power supply or something else? Also, he claims that every once and awile IE will crash and also a random total systm restart(but not too often).

**pharoah** · 08-17-2007, 02:45 PM

i made your post a seperate thread.here try this http://www.techsupportforum.com/arti...rsviewpro.html sounds like a heat issue.post back the temps that program reads out.also post the voltage readings.

mcer1 · 08-18-2007, 10:47 AM

Cpu 118c /245f(in Red)
Sys 33c/92f
Aux 54c/130f
Hd0 41c/106f
Hd1 45c/113f

Vcorea 1.78
Vcoreb 2.51
+3.3 1.60
+5 5.30
+12 11.70
+5vsb 4.92
+vbat 0.00

**pharoah** · 08-18-2007, 11:17 AM

hmm i doubt that is correct 118c that cpu would already be dead.try speedfan see what it reads the temps,and volts as.

mcer1 · 08-18-2007, 02:45 PM

Speedfan
fan1 2722
fan2 4856

temp1 33C
temp2 54C
temp 3 118C
temp1 55C
temp2 125C
local temp 38C
remote temp 46C
HD0 41C
HD1 45C

Vcore1 1.78
Vcore2 2.51
+3.3 1.60
+5 5.03
+12 11.71
-12V -8.58
-5 -6.46
+5 5.05
Vbat 0.00
Vcore 0.02
+2.5 0.05
+1.5 0.02
+3.3 3.22

**pharoah** · 08-18-2007, 03:56 PM

what kind of power supply does the computer have?brand,model,etc

mcer1 · 08-18-2007, 04:33 PM

I was thinking that could be the problem myself, but what do I know.

Xtreme 320 watt
Model PM-S320U

System
AMD Athlon XP 1800
1.53 ghz
1 GB 4200
PNY GeForce 5900 video
Creative Audigy SE sound

**pharoah** · 08-18-2007, 04:41 PM

that could be it for sure.what are the other hardward specs cpu,vid card ,etc.

edit: nevermind you already listed them

**pharoah** · 08-18-2007, 04:45 PM

for that cpu temp look in the bios.if you dont know how to get in there. simply start hitting the delete key right after you hit the power button.

mcer1 · 08-18-2007, 05:58 PM

In the bios, it shows CPu at 57C. I am guessing Sensor Pro is reading the CPU as Aux...Not sure what it is reading at 118C. What do you recommend? Do you think it is the power supply? Or do you think there is overheating somewhere?

**pharoah** · 08-18-2007, 06:46 PM

if the cpu is idling 57c heat is definetly an issue.first off check the fans,and heatsink for a dust buildup.if it has alot of dust clean it out.

mcer1 · 08-18-2007, 07:19 PM

Ok...I will have him clean it completely. Could the power supply be causing the problem? Or have you eliminated the power supply as a possible cause?

**pharoah** · 08-19-2007, 12:33 AM

the power supply is a good possibility as well,but lets do this one step at a time.

mcer1 · 08-19-2007, 10:23 AM

We played 1 game since the cleaning at it was completed, but the CPU still showed a reading 57C. Also he has an Asus MB with cool and quiet, but it is disabled. Any thoughts on that feature? Hopefully the cleaning was the issue, but we have completed games before, so only time will tell. Do you think a new power supply would be a smart move anyway? 320W sounds low for any sytem nowadays and I believe it is an older PS.

**pharoah** · 08-19-2007, 02:12 PM

power supplies to degrade over time so it may need replaced.have a look at the power supply selection link in my sig.

mcer1 · 08-19-2007, 05:59 PM

Very interesting and very overwhelming. I have built PC's before and never paid much attention to the PS. I will next time. How is this one for myt brother's pc since I would think he is lower-end?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

**pharoah** · 08-19-2007, 09:56 PM

id say go for this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104953

Major_Ecks · 09-04-2007, 05:01 PM

sorry to hijack your thread but I'm having a simmilar problem.

Except it is DEFINATELY NOT HEAT related as its a new computer and its clean. the PSU thing was interesting. I know its new (thermal Take 430 watt PSU) but could it be a faulty PSU???? I've had DOA PSU's before but in those they are dead...no power... this one isn't acting the same as those, really it functions well.

The video card is a X850XT---yes, I know they have a faulty fan controller so I have ATI tools running to fix that.

08-17-2007, 01:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	All games randomly crashing similar problem Sorry Scar, not trying to step on your toes, but I am having a similar problem with a PC. I just figured everyone could help us both at the same time. Games keep randomly crashing to desktop. Playing any game, no sounds, no warning, just crashed to desktop and the game window is gone and of course I receive a send report option to Microsoft. This my brother's cpu, so I will gather his info and post it later. I appreciate any ideas. Could this be overheating(video card or RAM or something) or power supply or something else? Also, he claims that every once and awile IE will crash and also a random total systm restart(but not too often). Last edited by mcer1; 08-17-2007 at 01:50 PM.

08-17-2007, 02:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem i made your post a seperate thread.here try this http://www.techsupportforum.com/arti...rsviewpro.html sounds like a heat issue.post back the temps that program reads out.also post the voltage readings. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-18-2007, 10:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem Cpu 118c /245f(in Red) Sys 33c/92f Aux 54c/130f Hd0 41c/106f Hd1 45c/113f Vcorea 1.78 Vcoreb 2.51 +3.3 1.60 +5 5.30 +12 11.70 +5vsb 4.92 +vbat 0.00

08-18-2007, 11:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem hmm i doubt that is correct 118c that cpu would already be dead.try speedfan see what it reads the temps,and volts as. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-18-2007, 02:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem Speedfan fan1 2722 fan2 4856 temp1 33C temp2 54C temp 3 118C temp1 55C temp2 125C local temp 38C remote temp 46C HD0 41C HD1 45C Vcore1 1.78 Vcore2 2.51 +3.3 1.60 +5 5.03 +12 11.71 -12V -8.58 -5 -6.46 +5 5.05 Vbat 0.00 Vcore 0.02 +2.5 0.05 +1.5 0.02 +3.3 3.22

08-18-2007, 03:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem what kind of power supply does the computer have?brand,model,etc __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-18-2007, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem I was thinking that could be the problem myself, but what do I know. Xtreme 320 watt Model PM-S320U System AMD Athlon XP 1800 1.53 ghz 1 GB 4200 PNY GeForce 5900 video Creative Audigy SE sound Last edited by mcer1; 08-18-2007 at 04:40 PM.

08-18-2007, 04:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem that could be it for sure.what are the other hardward specs cpu,vid card ,etc. edit: nevermind you already listed them __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-18-2007, 04:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem for that cpu temp look in the bios.if you dont know how to get in there. simply start hitting the delete key right after you hit the power button. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-18-2007, 05:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem In the bios, it shows CPu at 57C. I am guessing Sensor Pro is reading the CPU as Aux...Not sure what it is reading at 118C. What do you recommend? Do you think it is the power supply? Or do you think there is overheating somewhere?

08-18-2007, 06:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem if the cpu is idling 57c heat is definetly an issue.first off check the fans,and heatsink for a dust buildup.if it has alot of dust clean it out. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-18-2007, 07:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem Ok...I will have him clean it completely. Could the power supply be causing the problem? Or have you eliminated the power supply as a possible cause?

08-19-2007, 12:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem the power supply is a good possibility as well,but lets do this one step at a time. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-19-2007, 10:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem We played 1 game since the cleaning at it was completed, but the CPU still showed a reading 57C. Also he has an Asus MB with cool and quiet, but it is disabled. Any thoughts on that feature? Hopefully the cleaning was the issue, but we have completed games before, so only time will tell. Do you think a new power supply would be a smart move anyway? 320W sounds low for any sytem nowadays and I believe it is an older PS. Last edited by mcer1; 08-19-2007 at 10:26 AM.

08-19-2007, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem power supplies to degrade over time so it may need replaced.have a look at the power supply selection link in my sig. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

08-19-2007, 05:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
mcer1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11 OS: XP	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem Very interesting and very overwhelming. I have built PC's before and never paid much attention to the PS. I will next time. How is this one for myt brother's pc since I would think he is lower-end? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

08-19-2007, 09:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem id say go for this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104953 __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-04-2007, 05:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Major_Ecks Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 33 OS: xp Pro	Re: All games randomly crashing similar problem sorry to hijack your thread but I'm having a simmilar problem. Except it is DEFINATELY NOT HEAT related as its a new computer and its clean. the PSU thing was interesting. I know its new (thermal Take 430 watt PSU) but could it be a faulty PSU???? I've had DOA PSU's before but in those they are dead...no power... this one isn't acting the same as those, really it functions well. The video card is a X850XT---yes, I know they have a faulty fan controller so I have ATI tools running to fix that.