Terrible FPS issue, multiple games.

[WinteRx182]

A while ago my motherboard died, so I ended up deciding to just upgrade a lot of pieces of hardware in my computer since they were becoming ancient.

With the DxDiag I will post below this, you will see some of the new items that I bought (in total: New CPU, Motherboard, RAM, Video Card) but some how, my FPS has bottomed out to complete disaster. Playing what seemed a simple graphics game (World of Warcraft -- everything on Low) I get a normal fps of around 20. Trying to play half life deathmatch was even worse, chopping around all over the place. I have an X1950 XT, where i have read is a diffcult card to overclock, so my attempts at doing so have failed. I have no idea what is causing this terrible FPS problem, but it has to end soon.

My DxDiag is as follows (what I feel is applicable atleast):

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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/27/2007, 21:16:11
Machine name: NO-A56J4RIUJFKW
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: 965P-S3
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 498MB used, 3441MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: Radeon X1950 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x7244)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7244&SUBSYS_0B121002&REV_00
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6683 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/14/2007 21:57:34, 267776 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 3/14/2007 21:57:15, 1986560 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-3104-11CF-A969-182BA1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x7244
SubSys ID: 0x0B121002
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV8_B ModeWMV8_A ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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{3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

[manic]

What brand and wattage power supply do you have?

[WinteRx182]

500Watt Antec Basiq power supply

[Aus_Karlos]

Did you format your HDD when you installed all the new Hardware.. When you replace the motherboard you need to re-install windows otherwise it becomes very unstable and in most cases it doesnt boot

[manic]

Cuttin it close on power imho. And as was said if you didnt do a clean
install of xp there could be issues.

[WinteRx182]

i did do a reformat when i installed all the new hardware, basically only backed up my addons for wow, and i dunno if you guys would think just doing that much would cause incredible frame lag not in just this but other games as well.

[Aus_Karlos]

Whats you system temps like.. When you system gets too hot it will throttle down to protect itself from been damaged.
Download SpeedFan to check your temps

[WinteRx182]

processor temp is 81C and mainboard is 50C

[Aus_Karlos]

theres your problem your CPU temp is off the chart... It should be around 30-40c.. I would turn off the pc before the processor is fried anymore. Clean all the dust out of the fan and heatsink and anywhere else you see dust. Make sure the Heatsink is fitted correctly. Buy some thermal paste and smear it on the top of the CPU (where the heatsink comes in contact with the CPU).

These are the temps you should be looking at.. Room temp about 25c
CPU: Idle 30-35c Load 35-45c
GPU: Idle 30-40c Load 40-50c (Can be upto 70c)
HDD: Idle 30-44c Load 35-47c (55c data corruption occurs)

[manic]

That is rather toasty, you need to cool that puppy down. Karlos gives
good advice. Might try adding some fans as well. I prefer one in the front
drawing air in, one in the back sucking hot air out. If you have one on
the side I prefer that to be blowing out.

[WinteRx182]

I did the thermal paste thing on the CPU and am also fairly sure the heatsink is running just fine. I also have one side case fan and two fans on the back. I am pretty sure they all blow inwards toward the case. There's two things that I could see as an issue. First, I don't know how people do it, I have tried and tried, but when I hook everything up to the PSU, I can't keep it all neat an clean and conserved space. Cords are all over the place and its basically just a mess, I have no idea how to get around it, which could most likely just be trapping heat inside. Secondly, a while ago I had a 550w PSU that was larger than the default PSU the case came with, so I ended up having to take the roof fan off to fit the PSU. Now with my 500w PSU, I could fit the fan there again instead of the gaping hole on top.

That all said, is there a way I can change how the fans blow air or what not? and I am pretty sure I don't have any spot for a fan in the front. And lastly, what kind of fan should I have on top? normal inward blowing fan?

[Aus_Karlos]

This is how you should have your case fan layout be.......
Front Fans: Sucks cool air in
Side Fans: Blows hot air out
Back Fans: Blows hot air out
Top case Fans: Sucks cool air in
That way you create an airflow

And i used cable ties to tie my cables up. I tied them to the inner metal frame

[koala]

Originally Posted by Aus_Karlos

Top case Fans: Sucks cool air in

Correction...... Top case fans: Blows hot air out

[Aus_Karlos]

Really! All the case fans ive had that have had a top fan suck air in.. I think i might change that then

[manic]

Alot of cases ship with the side fan blowing in, which imho is wrong.
Ive had to flip about 75%. Havent dealt with many cases with the fan
up top. But it would make sense that it should blow out, exhausting
hot air from case.