Please Help me...

garusame12 · 02-16-2009, 03:21 AM

I have a big problem with my PC. Whenever I log in the game Perfect World after a few seconds it will totally crush and my pc will restart. Due to this I can't play the said game. Here is my PC's specs: Quad Core, 2GB memory, GeForce 8500GT series 512MB. My OS is XP Black edition. Do please help me with this

**koala** · 02-16-2009, 08:25 AM

What make/model is your PSU?

Do you realise that the XP Black Edition is illegal?

garusame12 · 02-17-2009, 08:54 AM

My PSU model/brand is Morr Loqic 500w. I believe its brand new also because my PC is only 2mos old. How do I test if my power supply is working properly???

Regarding about the XP black edition. I will like to ask u a question. Why did Microsoft created such thing if it will considered illegal??

**koala** · 02-17-2009, 09:11 AM

Is it only this game that crashes or all fullscreen games?

Make a note of the temperatures and PSU voltages in BIOS, then reboot and check again with SensorsView or SpeedFan, preferably while playing a game.

How many amps does your Morr Loqic 500W PSU have on the +12V line?

Do you have any links to show that Microsoft approve of, supply and support the hacked XP Black Edition? I can't find anywhere online that is selling it legally, only torrent and warez sites.

garusame12 · 02-18-2009, 10:00 AM

What is the normal temp. for the GPU and HDO?? I downloaded the Sensorsview and this is the result. My GPU's temp is 130F and my HDO is 101F. Is this two normal or not. Please advice me. Tnx. On the other hand, what is the meaning of GPU and HDO??

**koala** · 02-18-2009, 10:16 AM

130F (50C) for the GPU (graphics card) is good. 101F (38C) for the HD0 (hard drive) is quite high but shouldn't be causing games to crash. Did you take these readings during or after playing a game?

Is it only this game that crashes or all fullscreen games?

Make a note of the temperatures and PSU voltages in BIOS, and also while gaming using SensorsView. We need to see all the readings, not just the graphics card and hard drive.

How many amps does your Morr Loqic 500W PSU have on the +12V line? Remove the side panel from the case to see the PSU label for this info.

Did you buy the XP Black Edition from Microsoft or did you download it?

garusame12 · 02-20-2009, 10:45 AM

In the +12V there are 10A written. Why did you asked?? Regarding to the Fullscreen games its the only game in fullscreen that crushes the other two: Diablo II and Rise of Nation; aren't crushing even they are played in a full screen.

Regarding the XP Black Edition issue I just borrow a CD copy of that to a friend who also have that series in his PC..

**koala** · 02-20-2009, 11:12 AM

The +12V line from your PSU powers the graphics card. For AGP graphics cards, it needs to be providing at least 18A, and for PCIE cards it needs to be 28A. You need a stronger PSU for a PCIE 8500GT.

garusame12 · 02-20-2009, 11:34 PM

Mr. Koala please be more specific cause I'm not that good in abbreviations... Can u give me some PSU model/brand that is good for my PC...

Regarding to my other games, I'm experiencing lag sometimes when I play Diablo II. Is this due to my ailing PSU also??

**koala** · 02-21-2009, 02:58 AM

There might be other problems that are causing Diablo II to lag, but if your PSU label says there are only 10 amps on the +12V line, then it's too weak to power your graphics card and should be replaced as soon as possible to avoid damaging the rest of your computer. If the game is still lagging after the upgrade, we can start looking at other options like drivers, patches, defrag, free hard drive space, etc.

Blow out any dust from the inside of your case with a can of compressed air to try and reduce the hard drive temperature, and make sure all fans are spinning. There should be a fan at the front of the case pulling in cool air and one at the back blowing warm air out.

Sorry about the abbreviations. AGP is the older Accelerated Graphics Port, and PCIE is the newer Peripheral Component Interconnect Express. Basically, motherboards will have one or the other of these types of slot for the graphics card. Your GeForce 8500GT is a PCIE card, so it needs a good quality PSU like the ones listed below

Corsair 550W (41A/+12V)
OCZ StealthXStream 600W (58A/+12V)
Seasonic 550W (58A/+12V)

Mcninjaguy · 02-21-2009, 04:13 PM

get the seasonic since its the cheapest and very good quality

02-16-2009, 03:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
garusame12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5 OS: XP service pack 2	Please Help me... I have a big problem with my PC. Whenever I log in the game Perfect World after a few seconds it will totally crush and my pc will restart. Due to this I can't play the said game. Here is my PC's specs: Quad Core, 2GB memory, GeForce 8500GT series 512MB. My OS is XP Black edition. Do please help me with this

02-16-2009, 08:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,364 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Please Help me... What make/model is your PSU? Do you realise that the XP Black Edition is illegal? __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

02-17-2009, 08:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
garusame12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5 OS: XP service pack 2	Re: Please Help me... My PSU model/brand is Morr Loqic 500w. I believe its brand new also because my PC is only 2mos old. How do I test if my power supply is working properly??? Regarding about the XP black edition. I will like to ask u a question. Why did Microsoft created such thing if it will considered illegal??

02-17-2009, 09:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,364 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Please Help me... Is it only this game that crashes or all fullscreen games? Make a note of the temperatures and PSU voltages in BIOS, then reboot and check again with SensorsView or SpeedFan, preferably while playing a game. How many amps does your Morr Loqic 500W PSU have on the +12V line? Do you have any links to show that Microsoft approve of, supply and support the hacked XP Black Edition? I can't find anywhere online that is selling it legally, only torrent and warez sites. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

02-18-2009, 10:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
garusame12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5 OS: XP service pack 2	Re: Please Help me... What is the normal temp. for the GPU and HDO?? I downloaded the Sensorsview and this is the result. My GPU's temp is 130F and my HDO is 101F. Is this two normal or not. Please advice me. Tnx. On the other hand, what is the meaning of GPU and HDO??

02-18-2009, 10:16 AM	#6 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,364 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Please Help me... 130F (50C) for the GPU (graphics card) is good. 101F (38C) for the HD0 (hard drive) is quite high but shouldn't be causing games to crash. Did you take these readings during or after playing a game? Is it only this game that crashes or all fullscreen games? Make a note of the temperatures and PSU voltages in BIOS, and also while gaming using SensorsView. We need to see all the readings, not just the graphics card and hard drive. How many amps does your Morr Loqic 500W PSU have on the +12V line? Remove the side panel from the case to see the PSU label for this info. Did you buy the XP Black Edition from Microsoft or did you download it? __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

02-20-2009, 10:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
garusame12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5 OS: XP service pack 2	Re: Please Help me... In the +12V there are 10A written. Why did you asked?? Regarding to the Fullscreen games its the only game in fullscreen that crushes the other two: Diablo II and Rise of Nation; aren't crushing even they are played in a full screen. Regarding the XP Black Edition issue I just borrow a CD copy of that to a friend who also have that series in his PC..

02-20-2009, 11:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,364 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Please Help me... The +12V line from your PSU powers the graphics card. For AGP graphics cards, it needs to be providing at least 18A, and for PCIE cards it needs to be 28A. You need a stronger PSU for a PCIE 8500GT. __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

02-20-2009, 11:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
garusame12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5 OS: XP service pack 2	Re: Please Help me... Mr. Koala please be more specific cause I'm not that good in abbreviations... Can u give me some PSU model/brand that is good for my PC... Regarding to my other games, I'm experiencing lag sometimes when I play Diablo II. Is this due to my ailing PSU also?? Last edited by garusame12; 02-20-2009 at 11:35 PM.

02-21-2009, 02:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,364 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Re: Please Help me... There might be other problems that are causing Diablo II to lag, but if your PSU label says there are only 10 amps on the +12V line, then it's too weak to power your graphics card and should be replaced as soon as possible to avoid damaging the rest of your computer. If the game is still lagging after the upgrade, we can start looking at other options like drivers, patches, defrag, free hard drive space, etc. Blow out any dust from the inside of your case with a can of compressed air to try and reduce the hard drive temperature, and make sure all fans are spinning. There should be a fan at the front of the case pulling in cool air and one at the back blowing warm air out. Sorry about the abbreviations. AGP is the older Accelerated Graphics Port, and PCIE is the newer Peripheral Component Interconnect Express. Basically, motherboards will have one or the other of these types of slot for the graphics card. Your GeForce 8500GT is a PCIE card, so it needs a good quality PSU like the ones listed below Corsair 550W (41A/+12V) OCZ StealthXStream 600W (58A/+12V) Seasonic 550W (58A/+12V) __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

02-21-2009, 04:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Please Help me... get the seasonic since its the cheapest and very good quality