Left4Dead 2 Boycotters

[Warfare]

Ive heard that the possibility of it straight from Gabe Newell's mouth.. Well E-mail.

But that doesn't mean that he WILL start it.

[Baejung92]

I don't think Valve will make CS2 cartoony. Would probably create competition with their own Team Fortress 2.

[Mcninjaguy]

If they make a CS 2 I hope its really realistic

-No crosshair
-Real life bullet piercing and physics.
-Better graphics
-Improved and revamped gameplay.

L4D 2 will probably sell more than L4D depending on what they put in the gameplay.

[Zealex]

To add to ninja's post I think cs2 should have ironsights and clips instead of ammo reloads. What I mean is that css if your 15/90 you reload you have 30/75, I'd rather it be more of 15/3 30/2 like in bf2 or bf2142.

[Carey7090]

It does sound like a rehash. I never really got into the first one, it was so damn repetitive. If you beat one campaign, you didn't need to beat the other three. There was no difference between the survivors, neither one had better accuracy, damage or stamina...just plain through and through. No variety in weapons either, just the same few. Pistol, shotgun, uzi, assault rifle and sniper rifle, and you could only carry one primary plus your pistol. And I never noticed a difference between the uzi and assault rifle, the only difference with the shotguns was one held more rounds and fired faster. Personally the only weapon I used was the shotgun and pipe bombs.

However, playing as infected worked better. The infected had different abilities, something the survivors should of had. This is something that never made sense to me either. They gave those who played as infected different abilities, but those who play as survivors get the shaft.

Maybe in the next game they'll step it up a bit more. It doesn't look like it...but they could at the very least add an upgrade system for weapons and items. One that actually makes a difference, there are countless games that have no real upgrade system...most of the time there's really only one great way to upgrade and anything other than that makes the game incredibly hard, or you don't notice any difference from before.

[GoSuNi]

Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy

If they make a CS 2 I hope its really realistic

-No crosshair
-Real life bullet piercing and physics.
-Better graphics
-Improved and revamped gameplay.

L4D 2 will probably sell more than L4D depending on what they put in the gameplay.

I don't think the gameplay should be changed since it is a classic!

[csc2000e]

LEFT 4 DEAD 2 FTW!!!

I ignored the L4D 2 boycott group. I understand their point though. And I do hope that the game is like $30 or $40. And not 50. But all new characters, 5 new levels, new kinds of special infected, new weapons... just seem too good to pass up!

[Carey7090]

You can only hope...the new levels don't entice me at all. The levels in the first didn't seem to affect the gameplay. And it sounds like the only new weapons are the melee weapons. New infected however, that is a step forward...more so than a few new weapons. Hopefully they'll let you carry a melee weapon, primary weapon and your pistol. For some reason I have a feeling that they only let you carry a melee and pistol. Kinda like the first game, primary and pistol. We'll see...I don't want to knock the 2nd one so much as I've never played it and only seen just a little bit of it. But so far it seems like a rehash...honestly I hope I'm wrong. Because if I'm right, than that means Valve is heading the direction of studios like EA and Ubisoft...sequels in one-two years....and little effort put into them.

Originally Posted by csc2000e

LEFT 4 DEAD 2 FTW!!!

I ignored the L4D 2 boycott group. I understand their point though. And I do hope that the game is like $30 or $40. And not 50. But all new characters, 5 new levels, new kinds of special infected, new weapons... just seem too good to pass up!

[Mcninjaguy]

I have never seen Vlave not put a lot of effort into a game, so I doubt it won't be awesome

I think if CS 2 is made they can not e stagnant in gameplay otherwise why buy the game at all. Its so old now and it needs to be rejuvinated with a new game.

I think it should have differences of comparing COD 3 to COD4. Everything was improved and the gameplay is tighter.

[Baejung92]

@Carey: I believe in an IGN preview Valve said that picking up a melee weapon makes you drop the primary. IGN was disappointed and urged that they change this.

[Mcninjaguy]

I think they should add an extra slot for Melee weapons.

[Carey7090]

Oh my god.....I can't believe they actually did that. What's the point in only carrying around a melee weapon when you can pick up a shotgun. It seems as though studios don't bother listening to their testers anymore. That or they have terrible testers.

Originally Posted by Baejung92

@Carey: I believe in an IGN preview Valve said that picking up a melee weapon makes you drop the primary. IGN was disappointed and urged that they change this.

[Zealex]

If everyone actually boycotted l4d that would be.

A.Funniest thing ever.

B.Embarrassing to Valve.

C.Probably go in History :D.

[Mcninjaguy]

I am thinking people will change their minds about L4D 2.

[40sondacurb]

if it has portals I'll buy it.

[Warfare]

Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy

If they make a CS 2 I hope its really realistic

-No crosshair
-Real life bullet piercing and physics.
-Better graphics
-Improved and revamped gameplay.

L4D 2 will probably sell more than L4D depending on what they put in the gameplay.

I only agree with the bottom 3 points... I do not agree with no crosshair.. Sure it would make it more realistic but what about the radar, the HUD. They are not in real life either.

Almost nobody except competitive teams would play if it had no crosshair because it would be too much guess work. No one wants to play a game and work at it to get a few kills.. Seriously, go into a css sever and type "crosshair 0" in console and see how bad you do.. Sooner or later you would get better but not after you get rolled for a few days.



Also, Who ever said Ironsights... Please go play call of duty.. Ironsights worked really well in the COD series untill it became a spray and pray game with the dreaded perks *shudders*...

[Zealex]

Originally Posted by Warfare

I only agree with the bottom 3 points... I do not agree with no crosshair.. Sure it would make it more realistic but what about the radar, the HUD. They are not in real life either.

Almost nobody except competitive teams would play if it had no crosshair because it would be too much guess work. No one wants to play a game and work at it to get a few kills.. Seriously, go into a css sever and type "crosshair 0" in console and see how bad you do.. Sooner or later you would get better but not after you get rolled for a few days.



Also, Who ever said Ironsights... Please go play call of duty.. Ironsights worked really well in the COD series untill it became a spray and pray game with the dreaded perks *shudders*...

Whats wrong with ironsights....there won't be perks if they make another cs I hope, and just because there is ironsights doesn't mean there is no recoil like in call of duty, depends on how the game was programmed, if it has a lot of recoil ironsights won't help much. Besides their realistic.AA has ironsights but if u spray with a saw it won't be the same spraying with a saw in cod4.

[Mcninjaguy]

I don't like the spray in COd 4 thats just ridiculous. I never use use Iron sights once I get the red dot sight in COD4. I don't think not having crosshair is tooo good but I want to try a demo of Call of Juarez and that game has no crosshairs too. It feels like your a guy in movie from the videos I've seen.

There are no crosshairs in Brothers in Arms - Road to Hell.