What will the performance gain be

DoomyCheese · 09-11-2007, 04:38 AM

My current rig is quite low end and incapable of any serious gaming. I get <30fps in Halo Combat Evolved, how sad is that?

SiS-661 motherboard
Celeron D 2.4Ghz processor
1gb PC3200
nVIDIA GeForce 7600GS 256mb graphics card
Thermaltake 400w power supply
Windows Vista Ultimate

Anyway, I'm currently building a new rig and I am wondering how well it will perform on newer more graphic intensive games such as Oblivion and Bioshock.

Foxconn Intel P9657AA-8KS2H motherboard
Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT
G.SKILL 1GB DDR2-800 RAM
Sapphire X1950 Pro 256mb graphics card
Antec Basiq 500w Power Supply
Windows Vista Ultimate

I would also like to know how much performance gain I would get when I have the money to upgrade the Pentium 4 to a Core 2 Duo E6600 and add another gig of G.SKILL DDR2-800 RAM.

Thankyou in advance :)

**TheMatt** · 09-11-2007, 04:58 PM

The video card was a nice improvement, however to play those games at full detail you will need an 8800 series card. I would look at the E6420 because its much cheaper and get the video card upgrade before the extra RAM if possible. Also, I would get a different PSU because that Antec is too weak and has very cheap capacitors.

**pharoah** · 09-11-2007, 05:11 PM

as a fairly experienced vista user get 2 gigs of ram.vista is a memory hog it will run alot smoother with 2.

DoomyCheese · 09-11-2007, 06:03 PM

When you say the PSU is too weak, do you mean the computer isn't going to have to power to even turn on or I will experience slow performance?

**TheMatt** · 09-11-2007, 07:14 PM

It will work, but you should be looking at a quality 600w PSU for the X1950 series. Also, the Basiq series used very bad quality caps which is more urgent.

DoomyCheese · 09-12-2007, 05:56 PM

I'll look into replacing the PSU instead of a second stick of ram then. So anyway, back on topic, how much performance increase can I expect?

**pharoah** · 09-12-2007, 05:59 PM

the difference between a 7600,and a 1950 is going to be huge.the 1950 is alot more powerfull a video card than a 7600gs.

DoomyCheese · 09-12-2007, 06:01 PM

Thats awesome to hear, how about the P4 2.8Ghz over the Celeron D 2.4Ghz? Then eventually a Core 2 Duo (undecided but I'm leaning towards E6600) over P4 2.8Ghz?

**pharoah** · 09-12-2007, 06:07 PM

that cpu will blow a celeron away.if you need a cheaper cpu to start with. one of the core 2 allendale cores would kill that p4.

these cpu's are the ones im talking about

DoomyCheese · 09-12-2007, 06:13 PM

Yeah I've thought about them before but the reason I'm leaning towards a higher end cpu is because it's for Christmas and isn't gonna cost me anything XD Thanks for the info Pharoah :)

**pharoah** · 09-12-2007, 06:17 PM

that p4 would not be better than a low end core 2 chip.your looking at mhz thats not the only thing to look at.the core2 cpu's architecture makes them way faster in processing power than a p4.

DoomyCheese · 09-12-2007, 06:19 PM

Yeah I know, but the P4 is just temporary, Christmas isn't far off and in the mean time I will probably only make the money for a better PSU and possibly another stick of ram. Unless I find a job :P

**pharoah** · 09-12-2007, 06:23 PM

thats cool the p4,and a 1950 is going to blow away the celeron,and 7600gs.you will be able to play games at way higher settings than the current stuff.

DoomyCheese · 09-12-2007, 06:45 PM

Yay :D

09-11-2007, 04:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	What will the performance gain be My current rig is quite low end and incapable of any serious gaming. I get <30fps in Halo Combat Evolved, how sad is that? SiS-661 motherboard Celeron D 2.4Ghz processor 1gb PC3200 nVIDIA GeForce 7600GS 256mb graphics card Thermaltake 400w power supply Windows Vista Ultimate Anyway, I'm currently building a new rig and I am wondering how well it will perform on newer more graphic intensive games such as Oblivion and Bioshock. Foxconn Intel P9657AA-8KS2H motherboard Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT G.SKILL 1GB DDR2-800 RAM Sapphire X1950 Pro 256mb graphics card Antec Basiq 500w Power Supply Windows Vista Ultimate I would also like to know how much performance gain I would get when I have the money to upgrade the Pentium 4 to a Core 2 Duo E6600 and add another gig of G.SKILL DDR2-800 RAM. Thankyou in advance :)

09-11-2007, 04:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: What will the performance gain be The video card was a nice improvement, however to play those games at full detail you will need an 8800 series card. I would look at the E6420 because its much cheaper and get the video card upgrade before the extra RAM if possible. Also, I would get a different PSU because that Antec is too weak and has very cheap capacitors. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-11-2007, 05:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: What will the performance gain be as a fairly experienced vista user get 2 gigs of ram.vista is a memory hog it will run alot smoother with 2. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-11-2007, 06:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	Re: What will the performance gain be When you say the PSU is too weak, do you mean the computer isn't going to have to power to even turn on or I will experience slow performance?

09-11-2007, 07:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: What will the performance gain be It will work, but you should be looking at a quality 600w PSU for the X1950 series. Also, the Basiq series used very bad quality caps which is more urgent. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-12-2007, 05:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	Re: What will the performance gain be I'll look into replacing the PSU instead of a second stick of ram then. So anyway, back on topic, how much performance increase can I expect?

09-12-2007, 05:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: What will the performance gain be the difference between a 7600,and a 1950 is going to be huge.the 1950 is alot more powerfull a video card than a 7600gs. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-12-2007, 06:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	Re: What will the performance gain be Thats awesome to hear, how about the P4 2.8Ghz over the Celeron D 2.4Ghz? Then eventually a Core 2 Duo (undecided but I'm leaning towards E6600) over P4 2.8Ghz?

09-12-2007, 06:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: What will the performance gain be that cpu will blow a celeron away.if you need a cheaper cpu to start with. one of the core 2 allendale cores would kill that p4. these cpu's are the ones im talking about __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-12-2007, 06:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	Re: What will the performance gain be Yeah I've thought about them before but the reason I'm leaning towards a higher end cpu is because it's for Christmas and isn't gonna cost me anything XD Thanks for the info Pharoah :)

09-12-2007, 06:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: What will the performance gain be that p4 would not be better than a low end core 2 chip.your looking at mhz thats not the only thing to look at.the core2 cpu's architecture makes them way faster in processing power than a p4. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-12-2007, 06:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	Re: What will the performance gain be Yeah I know, but the P4 is just temporary, Christmas isn't far off and in the mean time I will probably only make the money for a better PSU and possibly another stick of ram. Unless I find a job :P

09-12-2007, 06:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: What will the performance gain be thats cool the p4,and a 1950 is going to blow away the celeron,and 7600gs.you will be able to play games at way higher settings than the current stuff. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-12-2007, 06:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
DoomyCheese Cheesin' your Doom Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 110 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate [32-bit] My System	Re: What will the performance gain be Yay :D