If you were going to upgrade tomorrow...

Celsian · 09-02-2007, 08:48 PM

What type of system would you end up building? AMD or Intel?

I personally purchased an Athlon X2 6000+ not too long ago, I'm extremely happy with it, but I'm a bit of an AMD Fan Boy. For the longest time AMD was the only way to go if you were a frequent gamer, but which company *really* is the best now?

(Please check your opinions at the door and be as objective as possible.)

KIDhl2 · 09-02-2007, 10:29 PM

I also am an AMD fan.I have the 5600=@2.8Ghz.Right now I believe Intel has the edge.But,AMD is coming out with a new chip,Barcelona I believe,in a few days.I would at least wait and see what that has to offer.

Heres a couple links http://multicore.amd.com/us-en/AMD-M...Barcelona.aspx

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/news/2378

**TheMatt** · 09-02-2007, 11:33 PM

If I had infinite money I would go with a dual socket 1207FX system and two dual core Opterons. I would also buy an 8800 Ultra. Intel's quad core design is so inefficient I would not use it for more than 2 cores TBH. AMD's Hypertransport architecture is much more advanced and many of the Opterons have triple HT buses instead of one for 24 GB/s throughput to the Northbridge and a dedicated 12.8 GB/s bus to the memory.

Celsian · 09-03-2007, 01:55 PM

Awesome, thanks guys.

**pharoah** · 09-03-2007, 05:51 PM

if your looking at gaming only wont be a big difference.although the intel quads are winning,but not by much.

~~Nik00117~~ · 09-04-2007, 12:41 PM

Upgrade tomorrow with what budget? I intend on tossing a new CPU in pretty soon however going go with a a E6750 or sot he 204 one on newegg. 2.66 Ghz 4 MB of cache for a bit over 200 bucks? Sign me up! With amazing OCing potential.

AMD will come back, Intel is on its high horse its nose is too high up for its eyes to see whats ahead, AMD will be in the same postion with oct cores i'm sure.

ebackhus · 09-04-2007, 01:06 PM

AMD has been good to me since the days of the 486 so my choice is obvious.

**TheMatt** · 09-04-2007, 03:48 PM

Socket 1207FX is showing amazing potential, so I would agree. What I hope to see in the future is single socket 1207FX boards aimed at home users with a lesser budget. The AMD QuadFX will hopefully be based on this platform and the new Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX chips will be on 45nm. I am also hoping AMD will bring the tri-HT buses down from the Opteron to at least the Athlon 64 FX if not the Athlon 64 X2.

If all this is true when the QuadFX comes out, it will kick the living snot out of the Core 2 Quad.

**pharoah** · 09-04-2007, 04:07 PM

looks like barcelona could be a total beast.although do to the source take the info with a grain of salt.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970

Indoril Nerevar · 09-04-2007, 04:48 PM

I'm an AMD fanboy as well. I have an X2 6000+, and am very hapy with it. A system with an FX-74 would be nice though.

I personally will not move to Intel unless I have no other choice. Intel are good, but I feel a loyalty to AMD that I won't just throw away for slightly better performance.

**pharoah** · 09-04-2007, 05:35 PM

ive always built amd myself until my current rig.im going to stick it out with this one for some time though.when its time to upgrade my motherboard again i may go back to amd.only other intels i have ever had were laptops.

scharnhorst · 09-13-2007, 08:47 PM

Ok i'm an intel fan, got stock in it so i have to be and its never failed me and the difference between the two isn't HUGE anyways, but intel beat the crap out of amd this year. If i had to upgrade it'd be one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117132
and another 8800gtx and if money doesn't matter than the coolest case and biggest monitor i could get before i passed out

**pharoah** · 09-13-2007, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scharnhorst

Ok i'm an intel fan, got stock in it so i have to be and its never failed me and the difference between the two isn't HUGE anyways, but intel beat the crap out of amd this year. If i had to upgrade it'd be one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117132
and another 8800gtx and if money doesn't matter than the coolest case and biggest monitor i could get before i passed out

better be getting another motherboard to.that xeon is a 771 socket,and you mobo is a 775 socket.

scharnhorst · 09-14-2007, 10:11 AM

lol was looking at both to see the differences and pasted the wrong one meant this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115026

**pharoah** · 09-14-2007, 11:06 AM

yup that would work on that 680i board for sure.

scharnhorst · 09-14-2007, 11:42 AM

its only about 400 more than what i paid for mine :(

**pharoah** · 09-14-2007, 03:48 PM

you must have got that q6600 before the price drop.

scharnhorst · 09-14-2007, 06:13 PM

yep, but thats technology for ya. Out of all the components of my comp it was the most expensive being around $800 but without a doubt the best one, and probably the best for the long run

09-02-2007, 08:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Celsian Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 20 OS: Vista Ultimate x32	If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... What type of system would you end up building? AMD or Intel? I personally purchased an Athlon X2 6000+ not too long ago, I'm extremely happy with it, but I'm a bit of an AMD Fan Boy. For the longest time AMD was the only way to go if you were a frequent gamer, but which company really is the best now? (Please check your opinions at the door and be as objective as possible.)

09-02-2007, 10:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
KIDhl2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 62 OS: vista	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... I also am an AMD fan.I have the 5600=@2.8Ghz.Right now I believe Intel has the edge.But,AMD is coming out with a new chip,Barcelona I believe,in a few days.I would at least wait and see what that has to offer. Heres a couple links http://multicore.amd.com/us-en/AMD-M...Barcelona.aspx http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/news/2378 Last edited by KIDhl2; 09-02-2007 at 10:36 PM.

09-02-2007, 11:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... If I had infinite money I would go with a dual socket 1207FX system and two dual core Opterons. I would also buy an 8800 Ultra. Intel's quad core design is so inefficient I would not use it for more than 2 cores TBH. AMD's Hypertransport architecture is much more advanced and many of the Opterons have triple HT buses instead of one for 24 GB/s throughput to the Northbridge and a dedicated 12.8 GB/s bus to the memory. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides Last edited by TheMatt; 09-02-2007 at 11:36 PM.

09-03-2007, 01:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Celsian Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 20 OS: Vista Ultimate x32	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... Awesome, thanks guys.

09-04-2007, 12:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... Upgrade tomorrow with what budget? I intend on tossing a new CPU in pretty soon however going go with a a E6750 or sot he 204 one on newegg. 2.66 Ghz 4 MB of cache for a bit over 200 bucks? Sign me up! With amazing OCing potential. AMD will come back, Intel is on its high horse its nose is too high up for its eyes to see whats ahead, AMD will be in the same postion with oct cores i'm sure.

09-04-2007, 01:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
ebackhus Manager, Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 14,265 OS: WinXP Pro SP3/Windows 7 RTM My System Blog Entries: 28	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... AMD has been good to me since the days of the 486 so my choice is obvious. __________________ ----------------------------- There are no dumb questions, unless a customer is asking them. Help in the fight against cancer and other serious illnesses.

09-04-2007, 03:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... Socket 1207FX is showing amazing potential, so I would agree. What I hope to see in the future is single socket 1207FX boards aimed at home users with a lesser budget. The AMD QuadFX will hopefully be based on this platform and the new Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX chips will be on 45nm. I am also hoping AMD will bring the tri-HT buses down from the Opteron to at least the Athlon 64 FX if not the Athlon 64 X2. If all this is true when the QuadFX comes out, it will kick the living snot out of the Core 2 Quad. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-04-2007, 04:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... looks like barcelona could be a total beast.although do to the source take the info with a grain of salt. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41970 __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

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Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,008 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... I'm an AMD fanboy as well. I have an X2 6000+, and am very hapy with it. A system with an FX-74 would be nice though. I personally will not move to Intel unless I have no other choice. Intel are good, but I feel a loyalty to AMD that I won't just throw away for slightly better performance. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

09-04-2007, 05:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... ive always built amd myself until my current rig.im going to stick it out with this one for some time though.when its time to upgrade my motherboard again i may go back to amd.only other intels i have ever had were laptops. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-13-2007, 08:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
scharnhorst Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CA Posts: 276 OS: vista premium 32 My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... Ok i'm an intel fan, got stock in it so i have to be and its never failed me and the difference between the two isn't HUGE anyways, but intel beat the crap out of amd this year. If i had to upgrade it'd be one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117132 and another 8800gtx and if money doesn't matter than the coolest case and biggest monitor i could get before i passed out

09-14-2007, 10:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
scharnhorst Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CA Posts: 276 OS: vista premium 32 My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... lol was looking at both to see the differences and pasted the wrong one meant this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115026

09-14-2007, 11:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... yup that would work on that 680i board for sure. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-14-2007, 11:42 AM	#16 (permalink)
scharnhorst Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CA Posts: 276 OS: vista premium 32 My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... its only about 400 more than what i paid for mine :(

09-14-2007, 03:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
pharoah TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,188 OS: vista business edition My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... you must have got that q6600 before the price drop. __________________ Follow These Steps First Power Supply Selection Posting System Specs Oblivion Tweak Guide Video Drivers& Information TSF folding at home team 85015

09-14-2007, 06:13 PM	#18 (permalink)
scharnhorst Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: CA Posts: 276 OS: vista premium 32 My System	Re: If you were going to upgrade tomorrow... yep, but thats technology for ya. Out of all the components of my comp it was the most expensive being around $800 but without a doubt the best one, and probably the best for the long run