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Old 07-05-2007, 09:59 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, I am having serious lag problems on The Sims 2.

My Specs are:

CPU Info
Physical Processors 1
Logical Processors 2

CPU 1/1
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Family Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Architecture 32-bit
Internal Clock 3.2 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 3.2 GHz
External Clock 200.0 MHz
Socket Designation Microprocessor
Type Central
MultiCore 1 Processor Core
HyperThreadingTechnology Available - 2 HTT Processors per Core
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, PAE
Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Caches
Level 1 8 KB
Level 2 1 MB



DirectX Info
Version 9.0c
Long Version 4.09.00.0904


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DirectDraw
Version 5.03.2600.2180
Primary Device ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
Linked Display Adapters false

Display Device 1/1
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800 Driver 6.14.10.6561

Description ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
Manufacturer ATI Technologies Inc.
Total Local Video Memory 246 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 246 MB
AGP Aperture Size 117 MB
Driver File ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.6561
Driver Details 8.162-050803a2-025875C-Dell
Driver Date 8-3-2005
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 2048 px
Max Texture Height 2048 px
Max User Clipping Planes 6
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass 8
Vertex Shader Version 2.0
Pixel Shader Version 2.0
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 37
Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 297.0 MHz
VGA Core Clock 351.0 MHz
Max VGA Memory Clock 0.0 Hz
Max VGA Core Clock 0.0 Hz
PCI
Name ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
Vendor ID 0x1002
Device ID 0x4a4e
SubSystem ID 0x51061028
Revision ID 0x0000

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Bus
Type AGP
Revision 3.0
Enabled true
Rate 8
Sideband Addressing Supported
Fast Write Supported

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Texture Formats
32-bit ARGB [8888]
32-bit RGB [888]
16-bit RGB [565]
16-bit RGB [555]
16-bit ARGB [1555]
16-bit ARGB [4444]
8-bit A [8]
8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [UYVY]
FourCC [YUY2]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]

Capabilities
AGP Texturing, Hardware Transform and Lighting, Positional Lights, Subpixel Accurate Rasterizing, Stencil Buffers, Range Fog, Table Fog, Vertex Fog, W-Fog, Specular Gouraud Shading, Anisotropic Filtering, Bilinear Filtering, Point Sampling, Trilinear Filtering, Additive Texture Blending, Dot3 Texture Blending, Multiplicative Texture Blending, Subtractive Texture Blending, Environmental Bump Mapping, Environmental Bump Mapping With Luminance, Cube Mapping, Factor Alpha Blending, Vertex Alpha Blending, Texture Alpha Blending, Texture Clamping, Texture Mirroring, Texture Wrapping, Guard Band Support, N Patches, Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustment, Projected Textures, Volume Textures, Point Primitive Support, Full-Screen Anti-Aliasing, DXT Compressed Textures, Two Sided Stencil Test, Mipmapped Volume Textures, Mipmapped Cube Textures, Spherical Mapping, Automatic Mipmap Generation, Hardware Rasterization, Shading, Transform and Lighting, Scissor Test, Legacy Depth Bias

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DirectShow
Version 9.0c
Long Version 4.09.00.0904

Registered DirectShow Filters
.RAM file Parser
AC3 Parser Filter
ACELP.net Sipro Lab Audio Decoder
ACM Wrapper
ASF ACM Handler
ASF DIB Handler
ASF DJPEG Handler
ASF ICM Handler
ASF JPEG Handler
ASF URL Handler
ASF embedded stuff Handler
ASX file Parser
ASX v.2 file Parser
AVI Decompressor
AVI Draw
AVI Splitter
AVI/WAV File Source
Color Space Converter
Creative AC3 Source Filter
Creative CDDA Source Filter
Creative LiveRecording Filter
Creative MLP Source Filter
Creative MP3 Source Filter
Creative NVF Filter
Creative WMA Source Filter
DV Muxer
DV Splitter
DV Video Decoder
Decrypt/Tag
Default DirectSound Device
Default MidiOut Device
File Source (Async.)
File Source (Netshow URL)
File Source (URL)
File stream renderer
Indeo audio software
Indeo video 4.4 Decompression Filter
Indeo video 5.10 Decompression Filter
Internal Script Command Renderer
Line 21 Decoder
Line 21 Decoder 2
MIDI Parser
MJPEG Decompressor
MPEG Audio Decoder
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder
MPEG Video Decoder
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer
MPEG-2 Splitter
MPEG-I Stream Splitter
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor
Multi-file Parser
NSC file Parser
Overlay Mixer2
QT Decompressor
QuickTime Movie Parser
SAMI (CC) Parser
VBI Surface Allocator
VGA 16 Color Ditherer
Video Port Manager
Video Renderer
WM ASF Reader
WM ASF Writer
WST Decoder
Wave Parser
Windows Media Audio Decoder
Windows Media Multiplexer
Windows Media Update Filter
Windows Media Video Decoder
Windows Media source filter
XML Playlist


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DirectSound
Version 5.3.2600.2180
Speaker Configuration Headphones
Primary Device SB Audigy 2 [FEC0]

Sound Device 1/1
Creative Audigy Audio Processor (WDM) Driver 5.12.8.1041

Description SB Audigy 2 [FEC0]
Manufacturer Creative Technology, Ltd.
Driver File ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version 5.12.8.1041
Driver Date 10-6-2004
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Supported 3D Hardware Sounds 64
HD Audio Support false
EAX Support Supported
PCI
Name Creative Audigy Audio Processor (WDM)
Vendor ID 0x1102
Device ID 0x0008
SubSystem ID 0x20011102
Revision ID 0x0000

Capabilities
Continuous Rate, Primary Buffer with 16-bit Samples, Primary Buffers with 8-bit Samples, Monophonic Primary Buffers, Stereo Primary Buffers, Hardware-mixed Secondary Buffers with 16-bit Samples, Hardware-mixed Secondary Buffers with 8-bit Samples, Hardware-mixed Monophonic Secondary Buffers, Hardware-mixed Stereo Secondary Buffers


Memory Info
Total Physical Memory 1.00 GB
Free Physical Memory 619 MB
Total Pagefile Memory 2.40 GB
Free Pagefile Memory 2.10 GB

Memory Array 1/1
Max Module Capacity 2.00 GB
Supported Speeds -
Supported Types -
Supported Voltages -

Memory Slot 1/2
Installed Enabled Size 512 MB
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 400.0 MHz
Slot <conversion error>
Manufacturer <conversion error>
Type Details -
Enabled Size 512 MB
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 64 b
Memory Slot 2/2
Installed Enabled Size 512 MB
Form Factor DIMM
Frequency 400.0 MHz
Slot <conversion error>
Manufacturer <conversion error>
Type Details -
Enabled Size 512 MB
Total Bit Width 64 b
Data Bit Width 64 b




Motherboard Info
Supported Slot Types ISA, PCI, AGP
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Model 0W1450
BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
BIOS Version DELL - 27d50308
BIOS Release Date 08/03/05
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
AGP
Revision 3.0
Rate 4x, 8x (8x enabled)
Available Rate 0x0000000c
Selected Rate 0x00000008
Aperture Size 128 MB
Sideband Addressing Supported (enabled)
Fast Write Supported (enabled)

PCI Devices
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
Manufacturer ATI Technologies Inc.
Location PCI bus 1, device 0, function 0

Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Manufacturer Texas Instruments
Location PCI bus 2, device 1, function 1


Texas Instruments PCI-4510 CardBus Controller
Manufacturer Texas Instruments
Location PCI bus 2, device 1, function 0

Creative Audigy Audio Processor (WDM)
Manufacturer Creative Technology, Ltd.
Location PCI bus 3, device 0, function 0


Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
Manufacturer Broadcom
Location PCI bus 2, device 3, function 0

Ethernet Controller
Location PCI bus 2, device 0, function 0


Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 30, function 0

Intel(R) 82801EB LPC Interface Controller - 24D0
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 31, function 0


Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0

Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1


Multimedia Audio Controller
Location PCI bus 0, device 31, function 5

PCI Modem
Location PCI bus 0, device 31, function 6


Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D7
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2

Intel(R) 82801EB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 24DB
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 31, function 1


Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7

Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 3


Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to I/O Controller - 2570
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 0, function 0

Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to AGP Controller - 2571
Manufacturer Intel
Location PCI bus 0, device 1, function 0


Card Slots
PCMCIA Slot
Order 0
Designation PCMCIA 0
Type PCMCIA
Characteristics 5.0V
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details -
IRQ 0

Slot
Order 0
Designation MiniPCI
Characteristics 5.0V, PME Signal
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details -
IRQ 0


System Devices
Name Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Manufacturer Intel
Name Intel(R) 82801EB LPC Interface Controller - 24D0
Manufacturer Intel

Name Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to I/O Controller - 2570
Manufacturer Intel
Name Intel(R) 82865G/PE/P/GV/82848P Processor to AGP Controller - 2571
Manufacturer Intel

USB Devices
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller

Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Composite Device
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller

Description USB Human Interface Device
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Human Interface Device
Description USB Human Interface Device
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Human Interface Device
Description USB Mass Storage Device
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller

FireWire Devices
Description 1394 Net Adapter
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Device Class Network Adapter



Monitor Info
Monitor 1/5
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0.000000000 px
Max Height 0.000000000 px
Monitor 2/5
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0.000000000 px
Max Height 0.000000000 px
Monitor 3/5
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0.000000000 px
Max Height 0.000000000 px

Monitor 4/5
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0.000000000 px
Max Height 0.000000000 px
Monitor 5/5
Name Default Monitor
Manufacturer (Standard monitor types)
Max Width 0.000000000 px
Max Height 0.000000000 px




Operating System Info
Name Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600
PlatformId 2
Service Pack Service Pack 2 (v2.0)
Suite 256
Product Type 1
Media Center false
Windows Environment 32-bit
Locale US
Desktop Width 1280 px
Desktop Height 1024 px
Desktop BPP 32 b
Internet Explorer Version 62900.2180
DEP
Hardware Support false
Applications Protected false
Drivers Protected false
User Option On for essential Windows programs and services only







Storage Devices
Storage Device 1/3
HTS548060M9AT00
Device Drive Type Hard Disk
Name HTS548060M9AT00
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model HTS548060M9AT00
Vendor ID String HTS54806
Product ID String HTS548060M9AT00
Product Revision String MGBOA5EA
Serial Number MRLB22L4H08PLC
Interface Type IDE
Device Bus Type ATA
Capacity 55.89 GB
Drive Letters C:
CD Max Read Speed 0
CD Read Capabilities -
CD Write Capabilities -
DVD Read Capabilities -
DVD Write Capabilities -
SMART Supported (enabled)
Acoustic Management Supported (disabled)

Storage Device 2/3
WD 3200JB External USB Device
Device Drive Type Hard Disk
Name WD 3200JB External USB Device
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model WD 3200JB External USB Device
Vendor ID String WD
Product ID String 3200JB External
Product Revision String 0107
Interface Type USB
Device Bus Type USB
Capacity 298.09 GB
Drive Letters D:
CD Max Read Speed 0
CD Read Capabilities -
CD Write Capabilities -
DVD Read Capabilities -
DVD Write Capabilities -
SMART Not Supported
Acoustic Management Not Supported

Storage Device 3/3
_NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A
Device Drive Type DVD
Name _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A
Manufacturer (Standard CD-ROM drives)
Model _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A
Vendor ID String _NEC
Product ID String _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A
Product Revision String 203D
Interface Type IDE
Device Bus Type ATA
Capacity 650 MB
Drive Letters E:
CD Max Read Speed 0
CD Read Capabilities -
CD Write Capabilities -
DVD Read Capabilities +R, -RW, +RW
DVD Write Capabilities -R, +R, -RW, +RW
SMART Not Supported
Acoustic Management Not Supported





I have downloaded the latest drivers from dell but apparently there are even more later drivers but they aren't compatible with dell?

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/mobility-xp.html

Very confusing

This lag is not really rediculous but its rediculous to my standards. There is no way some one is getting my to play a game that studders every litteraly two seconds.

Just to give an idea of the degree of lag.

I have put every single graphics setting in The Sims 2 down to the minimal including the resolution (800 x 600) and refresh rate (60). Still, lag...

Also important is that my computer was just formatted and xp has just been put on it today. I have only installed

Avast
Firefox
Partition Magic
Acronis
3DMark

and thats it...

oh and also my computer isn't overheating I think because I have it on it's side while I have a fan on high against it two inches from it and it feels cool, also the cpu usage is low. I will post all else I can think of, thanks!

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Old 07-05-2007, 10:07 PM   #2
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start with the follow these steps first link in my sig.also have you scanned for viruses,and spyware.when was the last time you did a disk cleanup,and defragment?

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Ok, I have done all the steps in the sig except with the power adapter? I'm on a laptop so it all didn't sound relevant? Thanks, Eric
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What settings are you using?
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What settings are you using?
Everything minimal but thats giving the same results as everything maximum... it stays around 60 fps but after a minute or two it goes back to lag. Also, if I exit the game and wait a while and come back the same thing will happen. However, if I enter the game the second I exit it the fps will go to about 5 immediately... feels to me like a hardware problem or the fan or the graphics card?
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right now I am going to run a 3D Mark 2003 test... this should tell me everything I know... it's a shame my warranty is out on my laptop! I hope this isn't hardware... but just a fan... or drivers... haha
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try this http://www.techsupportforum.com/arti...rsviewpro.html to see what your temps are.post back to let us know what those temps are.
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:/ only my harddrive was found and its at 103 degrees farenheit 39 degrees celcius

i'm on an inspiron 9100 from dell, a laptop

Thanks for your help!

Also I just ran a 3D Mark test and after a minute it had the same drop in frame rates after repeating the same first flight test... this is no longer a sims 2 problem as a possibility...
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look at the bottom of your laptop.check the fan vents for dust buildup.


edit: also you can try speedfan to check temps.
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Ok, one thing says Temp 1 127 degrees farenheit 53 celcius with speed fan. I blew off all the visible dust on the vents and have the computer opened on its side in such a manner where there is a fan blowing on the bottom of it and the lid is open leaning on the wall supporting the laptop (lol, I made sure it's safe)

Update while writing: This is interesting, it seems that after doing that it's working better, but still not up to par? I'm going to experiment with times off of the graphics card and then when really using it over and over to see the difference in the frame rates.

Do you think that there could be dust in the graphics card area thats making it overheat?

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wow, now this data is interesting... with a giant room fan blowing on the back of my laptop and my other small fan blowing on the front of my keyboard and my room temp being 85 degrees this is the data I collected from the 3D mark 2003 flight test.

What I did was ran the test, recorded the fps, ran it again, recorded the fps, and the test was 40 seconds each time with about 10 - 20 seconds in between for rest.

1 - 198.1
2 - 187.4
3 - 180.4
4 - 178.0
5 - 181.2
6 - 178.3
7 - 174.4
8 - 170.8
9 - 170.7
10 - 176.4
11 - 168.4
12 - 169.2
13 - 172.0
14 - 168.4

Conclusion:

A heating problem and...

ran just about back to back for about 14 mins with outside cooling on laptop intense
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you may want to open that thing up to clean any dust out of the inside.if your not comfortable doing that yourself.have a shop do it for you.

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