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08-01-2008, 09:26 AM
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Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
Some games say I need Pixel Shader 2.0, and I dont even know exactly what it is. Is it a driver of some sort, a program or a piece of hardware?
I have a SonyVAIO laptop, with Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family as my graphic device with a Chip type GMA 950. Is there a way i can get pixel shader 2.0 or something higher on this computer? If there is please tell me where.
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08-01-2008, 11:42 AM
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Moderator Hardware Team
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
Hi, welcome to TSF
Pixel Shader is a feature found on graphics cards, but not on the Mobile Intel 945 Chipset (onboard graphics). The only way you can play games that require Pixel Shaders is to install a graphics card. Check your Vaio manual to see which slots are available (AGP or PCIE).
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08-01-2008, 11:52 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
I think he would have to install a new laptop.
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08-03-2008, 03:18 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
nope the thing is: you need new graphic card with pixel shader 3.0. You can try geforce 8000series, or you may want 9000series with pixel shader 4.0
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08-04-2008, 05:12 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
It's a laptop, he is stuck with whatever he has, unless he can replace his motherboard with one that has a 8600M GT on it like mine.
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01-14-2009, 06:25 PM
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Pixel Shader or Vertex Shader.
Ok, my Grafix card supposably doesn't support Pixel Shader 2.0, but when I use systemrequirementslab.com it tells me that I in fact do have Pixel Shader 2.0, what it tells me I dont have is something called Vertex Shader 2.0, can you tell me what to do or what this means because im very confused about this.
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01-14-2009, 06:46 PM
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Re: Pixel Shader or Vertex Shader. ***?
here is a good read that gives a simple explanation of both shader types.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shader
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01-15-2009, 04:49 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
The GMA chip will never provide satisfactory results in games. I have one in my new PC and am waiting for a video cards and all I can play is Half-Life Deathmatch: Source on DirectX 7 mode with major latency problems. (Fire a shot and they've already killed you problems)
EDIT: I can play HL2 in DX7 too! Source is quite flexible!
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01-15-2009, 04:53 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
this must be a merged thread yeah gma 950 stinks for games.
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01-15-2009, 05:46 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
intel should just stop making their integrated graphics cards
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01-15-2009, 11:26 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
Yeah... Either that or start developing a line of high performance video cards to rival nVidia and ATI. lol
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01-15-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
but they wouldn't because you know they stink of large evil Nazi cockroaches
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01-15-2009, 02:21 PM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy
but they wouldn't because you know they stink of large evil Nazi cockroaches
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lmao 
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01-16-2009, 04:56 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
I wish there was more of a choice in the industry. It's either ATI or nVidia.
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01-16-2009, 08:41 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
@eisenryu
basically my advice is to sell your laptop and buy a better one
ASUS makes pretty kick *** laptops of better quality than most other brands for about $300 less
like this one
ASUS N50Vn-A1B NoteBook
CPU = intel core duo 2ghz
RAM = 4gbs
Graphics card = Nvidia 9650 1 gb
HDD = 250gb
(its got a fingerprint reader too!)
$950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834220393
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01-16-2009, 11:10 AM
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
My advice is to buy a PC, because you can upgrade them far more that you can a laptop, but what a deal Mcninjaguy has suggested! I wish I had found that before I bought a Dell laptop.
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01-16-2009, 01:32 PM
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Games Team | Tech
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Re: Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher
I mean that laptop would probably be cheaper than buying all the parts needed for a new PC but a PC is upgradable over time.
For a PC to be really cheap over the long run, theres a couple things you should have in mind for future upgrading
-Upgradable Motherboard it can work with old cpu's and the newer cpu's too
it really depends on the motherboard (anywhere between $80 - $300)
-Nice power supply so you can upgrade you video card in the future and you don't need to buy another PSU later on.
something around $100 - $200 quality PSU prefereably 750w and up
Seasonic -any model
Corsair - any model
Silverstone - any model
ThermalTake - Toughpower series only
PC and Power Cooling
-Nice Case. Your case is probably the last big investment in your first custom PC buy. Lots of fans to keep your system cool
something around $100 and should have around 4 120mm case fans
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