Xp Machines, Linksys Router, no internet

[DemonicSymphony]

First off, let me say I'm beyond frustrated, here I am a certified network engineer and can't set up a simple home network -mutters- (Oh and no sleep I've been fighting with it for hours now, which is probably why I can't)

I have, one XP home machine running norton (with all its bells and whistles)
It connects to the internet just fine. However, I have one XP pro and one XP home laptop. Neither of these will connect to the internet, they find the router (Linksys) just fine, but won't go past there. I'm ready to tear out my hair. I've tried going through the network wizard and such and... rawr. I've even tried disconnecting this one and connecting the laptops into the ethernet cable it's running off of, no such luck.

It's official, this network hates me -cries-

I have DSL, the modem cable is run to the router.

[johnwill]

How about resetting one of those to installation defaults with the following procedure. If you don't have an interferring firewall on the unit, this should connect to the router with no further configuration.

TCP/IP stack repair options for use with Windows XP with SP2.

For these commands, Start, Run, CMD to open a command prompt.

Reset WINSOCK entries to installation defaults: netsh winsock reset catalog

Reset TCP/IP stack to installation defaults. netsh int ip reset reset.log

Reboot and test.

If this doesn't do it, let's see this:

For 98 or ME, Start, Run, COMMAND to open a DOS window:
--- or ---
For 2K or XP, Start, Run, CMD to open a DOS window:

Type the following command:

IPCONFIG /ALL

Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
Paste the results in a message here.

[DemonicSymphony]

Hey darlin, thanks for the reply.

However, now neither laptop sees the router unless i staticly assign and ip, then per usual, I see the router but no internet. If you still want the ipconfig /all info let me know (though all i can get it with is a static ip)

Edited to add, I just moved these laptops from a wireless network to a wired one and they both zoomed on the wirless network. It too was a linksys (which it should arrive here with my other belongings soon lol, but I miss my internet) and I'd really like to have the laptops set up to use both in case of one or the other cards going out in them.

[johnwill]

What does "see" imply? After a factory reset, can you see the SSID of the router in "available wireless networks"?

Since you say neither laptop works with the wired network after resetting the stack, I'd guess you have an issue with the router. With a factory reset on the router and the stack reset, you should see the router.

The only other possibility is bad NICs, bad cables, or a bad router.

[DemonicSymphony]

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : WOLFIE2
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ardmore.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ardmore.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-F1-5F-F7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.132.247.224
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.128
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 67.132.247.254
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.132.247.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.3.14.1
208.3.14.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:53:26 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:53:26 PM

THat's the ip info from the desktop

this is the ip info from one of the laptops:
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : LibLap
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-B0-71-EE-66
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.101
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:56:21 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:01:21 PM

Edited to add, what I'm confused about is why would the desktop be getting a public ip instead of a private one
I hate this network lol

Edited again:
Ah ha... I've found the problem. Only one computer is getting an IP address that allows it to go to the net (a public IP addy instead of my private ones the router is supposed to hand out). I'm now on the laptop... and the desktop won't go on-line. Does this mean my router has semi-died, or could it be some setting in the router messed up?

[DemonicSymphony]

Figured something else out, whatever computer is on the internet with the public IP can not access the router. (IE i plug the ip addy of the router in to snoop through the settings and the router isn't found)

[johnwill]

It's not as confuseing as you might imagine. Try plugging the broadband modem into the WAN/Internet port of the router, not one of the LAN/Network ports.

[DemonicSymphony]

-throttles something-

Why is it that one single little network can be so utterly frustrating. This network from the day it was set up (some 8 years ago) through all its little changes has been a pain in my side.

>.<

When the modem cable is connected to the WAN port nothing can get on the internet.

I think I've just gotten so disgusted with working with this thing since day one it now gives me problems I should be able to solve... I feel utterly stupid lol

[johnwill]

First off, can you connect one of the machines directly to the modem and obtain an Internet connection? Remember, you need to power cycle the modem whenever you change the attached device, be it a router or a computer. If that doesn't work, we need to solve that issue first. Assuming that works, let's continue.

OK, now that you have the router plugged into the correct hole, here's how to proceed.

Power down everything. Turn on the modem, wait for a steady carrier/data light. Power up the router, wait for two minutes. Boot one of the connected machines, it should be connected. Boot the next one, it should be connected. Etc.

[DemonicSymphony]

ALright, this is what I get when I plug the cable from the modem into the WAN port:

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : WOLFIE2
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-F1-5F-F7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, June 01, 2006 848 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:11:48 PM

This is what i get when it's plugged into a regular port:

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : WOLFIE2
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ardmore.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : ardmore.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-F1-F1-5F-F7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.240.166.68
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.192
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 65.240.166.126
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.132.247.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 208.3.14.1
208.3.14.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:08:07 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:08:07 PM



I have rest everything, powered things down and back up. I can not get to the internet on anything when going through the WAN port.

[johnwill]

Since you have DSL, do you have to use a name/password to connect? If so, you'll have to configure the router WAN section to connect to the DSL service.

When you plug the modem into one of the switch ports, you are totally bypassing the router function and using it like a simple switch. While it connects, you obviously don't have the NAT layer and the multiple address translation it supplies.

[DemonicSymphony]

The thing is the router worked fine like that for several years, since we first got the DSL. It never would work in the WAN port in the first place. There is no user name or password for it, simply plug and go.

The router -did- work, handing out addresses with the cable plugged into a single port, as I said, for years, about 4.

[DemonicSymphony]

I fixed it (by replacing the router)

Apparently the router since it's as old as it is, just gave up the ghost somewhat. Brought my wireless router in and everything is hunky dory...

-mutters- IT works through the internet port like it's supposed to

Thanks for all your help John I will definately save all the helpful info you gave. And very sorry if I seemed snippy this network just drives me -bonkers- and always have.

[johnwill]

I have those days too.