Hello guys,
I have a big issue. I'm trying to forward port on a VM but I even cant on my computer... Canyouseeme sais timout ! I tried 5858 but also 80, id didnt work.
I have disabled my firewall in computer and in VM and I opened TCP/UPD 5858 on my router box panel.:banghead:
Help please thanks :smile::flowers:opcorn:
What model router do you have? Can you include a screenshot or record of the port forwarding rules you are using? Also, can you include a tracert from a computer on the network to a server outside the network to make sure you are not double NAT?
Thanks
I have a Livebox (from Orange France), I dont know where is the model...
What are the rules ? I am using TCP/UDP !
Here is the tracert yahoo.com :
Code:
Tracing route to yahoo.com [2001:4998:c:a06::2:4008]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms livebox.home [2a01:cb04:447:d200:ba26:6cff:fe44:72b2]
2 21 ms 10 ms 15 ms 2a01cb08a00402010193025300740078.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr [2a01:cb08:a004:201:193:253:74:78]
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 2a01:cfc4:0:300::b
4 16 ms 13 ms 8 ms 2a01:cfc4:0:300::9
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms gi1-0-0.loncr1.London.opentransit.net [2001:688:0:2:5::ca]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 124 ms 119 ms 124 ms 10ge15-1.core1.dub1.he.net [2001:470:0:d0::2]
9 131 ms 129 ms 131 ms xe-0-0-9.pat2.iry.yahoo.com [2001:7f8:18::65]
10 130 ms 132 ms 130 ms 2a00:1288:f020::
11 196 ms 197 ms 196 ms 2001:4998:f01c:f::
12 216 ms 212 ms 215 ms 2001:4998:f00d:3::
13 231 ms 231 ms 226 ms ae-8.pat2.dnx.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f00d:4::1]
14 251 ms 255 ms 250 ms ae-6.pat2.gqb.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f00f:200::]
15 268 ms 247 ms * et-18-1-0.msr2.gq1.yahoo.com [2001:4998:f00f:209::1]
16 251 ms 254 ms 243 ms et-1-0-0.clr1-a-gdc.gq1.yahoo.com [2001:4998:c:fc20::1]
17 258 ms 256 ms 260 ms v6.et-18-1.fab3-1-gdc.gq1.yahoo.com [2001:4998:c:fa37::1]
18 249 ms 256 ms 253 ms 2001:4998:c:ee06::1
19 257 ms 256 ms 256 ms ir1.fp.vip.gq1.yahoo.com [2001:4998:c:a06::2:4008]
Trace complete.
How do you know IPv4 is not enabled? Not saying you are wrong, just curios. I assumed if it was disabled he wouldn't have been able to get online to run the port scan to begin with. Very few sites work on IPv6 only. I think Windows 7 and after does a IPv6 query for the domain first, since that is higher in the IP stack. That is why it's a good idea to disable IPv6 if your ISP doesn't support it, since the IPv6 request has to go through and be denied before it tries IPv4.
Thanks guys. I'm actually studying cybersecurity, I will use remote administration tools. I need to understand how ports work.
There is in the conf panel : "Ouverture de port(s) dans le firewall IPv6" that means : OPEN ports.
Sorry, I still don't understand the difference between port forwarding and opening, do you have concrete cases please ? I searched on Google and didnt understand :/
C:\Users\Theo>tracert yahoo.com
Tracing route to yahoo.com [98.139.183.24]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms livebox.home [192.168.1.1]
2 19 ms 7 ms 7 ms 80.10.235.137
3 35 ms 37 ms 40 ms ae115-0.ncidf204.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.253.81.202]
4 12 ms 7 ms 7 ms ae41-0.niidf202.Paris.francetelecom.net [193.252.98.177]
5 36 ms 9 ms 7 ms 193.252.137.74
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 99 ms 101 ms 103 ms YAHOO-INC.ear3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.15.212.174]
9 114 ms 105 ms 106 ms et-19-0-0.pat1.bfz.yahoo.com [216.115.97.103]
10 101 ms 101 ms 101 ms et-0-0-0.msr2.bf1.yahoo.com [74.6.227.137]
11 94 ms 97 ms 94 ms et-19-0-0.clr2-a-gdc.bf1.yahoo.com [74.6.122.37]
12 96 ms 94 ms 96 ms po8.fab3-1-gdc.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.22.37]
13 107 ms 111 ms 133 ms po-11.bas2-7-prd.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.129.179]
14 105 ms 98 ms 96 ms ir2.fp.vip.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.183.24]
Trace complete.
So is your only concern that message in your logs? Your not trying to get anything to work? If so, disable IPv6 and your done. It's saying your IPv6 firewall is off. If you disable IPv6, you don't need a firewall for it.
What are you trying to do? What made you post your question in the original post. I am looking for context. You said you were trying to "forward a port". Why?
That is why. I would like to understand the ports forwarding and openning amd triggering, I really dont understand the differences...
It will help me to configure port to remote computers I think. But I need mainly to understand what are ports for.
Your OP sounded like you were forwarding a specific port for a reason. Where did the port 5858 come from? Just something off the top of your head?
In order to explain what ports are, something you don't know, I first need to know what you DO know. Do you have any networking experience? Do you have a understanding on how IP and DNS works? I don't mind answering questions, but I need to know where to start and how to word my answers.
Thanks a lot
Yes I just invented it :grin: Because in the remote administration tool I can set whatever I want, 5858 was nothing used by default (like 21, 80 etc...) so I took it.
I did learn Networks basics at School (based on Cisco program) but I didn't understand much... I dont know how DNS works. I dont understand why IP is a protocol... For me it is like MAC, IP might be an adress the computer give to the router to identify... idk :ermm:
I totaly do not understand what is a port and what it is used for... I know I use 21 for FTP :angel:
Networks are a dark topic for me, because I think this is abstract, I need concrete things to understand but the lessons do not explains from scratch I meen what physically happen, so Im lost. And I need to know why before how to understand things...
One way to think of port forwarding is like office phone system. In that office, there is a receptionist that answers the phone and directs the calls to the phone extensions for the specific offices. If someone calls and asks for Bob, then they forward the call to ext. 101. This is because they have a list of people's names and their extensions. Port forwarding works in a similar way. The router acts as the receptionist, separating the local network from the public network, AKA the internet. Instead of a list of people's name and extensions, it connects different internet traffic types with the IP of the computer the router should forward it to. Forwarding the port is like saying every time someone calls for Bob, to ONLY transfer it to his office. A port trigger is like saying every time someone calls for Jill, the supervisor, the call rings every phone until Jill picks up from what ever office she happens to be in.
To use this example, lets say someone was setting up a security web camera on their network. The public IP(68.x.x.x) your router gets from the ISP is like the phone number of the business and the private 192.x.x.x IP of the camera gets from the router is like a office exstention. So to forward the port, you set the router to direct any request for specific traffic to the private IP of the camera. The type of traffic is determined by the port number.
You seem to already know that ports are broken into 3 groups; well known, registered, and private ports. Well known ports are like TCP port 80 for HTTP, AKA the protocol used by browsers to see websites. Registered ports are like well known ports where the protocols and the port are usually the same, but registered ports CAN be used for something else if configured that way. For example, port 8080 is typically used for remote access, however it can also be configured for a alternate port for HTTP, where port 80 can NOT be configured to receive POP3(AKA email).
The IP is the phone number of the external caller which want to call FTP ? And it sais in the packet I want to call FTP (with 21) so the router knows ?
And what doest "connects different internet traffic" mean ?
Why we are obliged to do that ? Why it is not automated ? Can the information in packets be mingled (confused with other) ?
I understand !! :thumb: So it means I have to put IP + port in the router. Then open port is not that at all because I have to put only the port hum ? But why do I need to put ip and port ? Why is it not automatic... if I send packet with the port to request ... I dont understand... Ive never forwarded anything to use my FTP on 21, HTTP on 80 etc... Fillezilla ask me witch port I use and so that I presume it sends a packet to the rooter.
Nope I didnt know the 3 groups, Ive never paid attention to that.
This is different than you going to a remote secure server. In that case you would put the wan ip address and the port number the remote service has been configured to use in this form: 100.10.1.1:8080 which is the target ip address and the port configured for the remote access service.
It takes a running program using a particular port or ports for those ports to be reported as open [test program/port checker gets a response when testing the port (are you there? yes I am)].
Forwarding is inbound only not outbound as in you forward a port or ports to the game you are hosting on your pc for remote friends to access and play on. On their end they just put in your wan ip into the game to connect to the game server.
This is different than you going to a remote secure server. In that case you would put the wan ip address and the port number the remote service has been configured to use in this form: 100.10.1.1:8080 which is the target ip address and the port configured for the remote access service.
It takes a running program using a particular port or ports for those ports to be reported as open [test program/port checker gets a response when testing the port (are you there? yes I am)]. Most ports are not open by default.
To learn more go to portforward.com and review their tutorials or google port forwarding basics.
BTW your VMs have no gateways no internet so no port forwarding
I was leaving the door open for someone else's input, which came, because I have difficulty communicating what I know in layman's terms. I rely on metaphors, which don't work well for something as detail rich as packet headers and NAT. If you ask me specific questions, I can try to explain, but without a goal to focus the discussion, I don't know where to begin. :3coffee:
In your ipconfig all the vmware adapters have no gateway. No gateway = no internet
Status
Not open for further replies.
You have insufficient privileges to reply here.
Related Threads
?
?
?
?
?
Tech Support Forum
4.7M posts
957.9K members
Since 2002
A forum community dedicated to tech experts and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about articles, computer security, Mac, Microsoft, Linux, hardware, networking, gaming, reviews, accessories, and more!