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Baffled: No free HD space.

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#1 · (Edited)
Good Afternoon forum,

I'd consider myself a pretty good PC user, and can normally 'fix' or work round problems I encounter in my PC use, but the problem I, or rather my girlfriend, has with her laptop has me completely stumped...

First of all, the spec:

Acer 5720Z;
pentium dualcore 1.6ghz
2gb ddr2 ram
80GB HDD.
windows vista

The problem: basically NO free HD space at all.

WinDirStat gives a number of 663MB spare - which out of 80GB with barely any programs at all installed, no photos videos, music etc - is very odd.

She's ran disk clean up and there is no change at all.

There's the obvious pagefile.sys (2GB) and hiberfil.sys (2GB) taking up a fairly large chunk, but what looks odd to me is the 12.6GB of application extension (DLL) files that WinDirStat flags up.

See the attached photo for the visual breakdown of the HD from WinDirStat.



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The amount of blue (DLL) is just crazy for having basically no programs at all installed. There's no games, photoshop, cad, itunes etc like there is on my computer, yet somehow 12/80GB of her HD is taken up with DLLs. I'm totally baffled.

Is it possible to delete some of these? Why are they all there?

The second part of the problem may well be the most crucial, but again, I've not seen anything like this before.

Instead of how I'm used to seeing 'my computer' look when opening it - one HD, called 'DRIVENAME (C:\)' then the bar showing below showing capacity level, her 'my computer' shows 'ACER (C:\)' and 'DATA (D:\)'.

The ACER bar is red (full) with '6.35MB free of 32.5GB' but the DATA bar is blue with 26.2GB free of 32.2GB - it's almost like the drive has been partitioned. but she has never told the computer to do so. Oddly, word documents for example can be saved into a D:\ location, and dragging files out of a C:\ location to a D:\ location copies the files to that destination, not moves them.

No programs can be installed into a 'D:\' location either.

It's a most bizarre setup, and I'm sure that is probably the cause of the total lack of available 'free' HD space, though I'm at a total loss to explain how.

Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.


Matt
 
#5 ·
Malware Scan:

"Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.50.1.1100
www.malwarebytes.org
Database version: 5363
Windows 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 7.0.6000.16681
13/03/2011 13:35:37
mbam-log-2011-03-13 (13-35-37).txt
Scan type: Quick scan
Objects scanned: 153227
Time elapsed: 5 minute(s), 32 second(s)
Memory Processes Infected: 0
Memory Modules Infected: 0
Registry Keys Infected: 0
Registry Values Infected: 0
Registry Data Items Infected: 0
Folders Infected: 0
Files Infected: 0
Memory Processes Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Memory Modules Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Keys Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Values Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Registry Data Items Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Folders Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
Files Infected:
(No malicious items detected)"
 
#6 ·
Hi Kenny, thanks for your reply too.

I'm trying to find the additional options to check the shadow copy removal but I don't get any options.

'Start/Accessories/System tools/disk cleanup' - only prompts a dialog to select 'my files only' or 'files from all users on this computer' - selecting either of these options then gives the 'select drive' options - both c:/ and d:/ are available.

I never actually get to see the tabbed window you can see on this page: Delete files using Disk Cleanup

Increasingly odd, this problem..

Cheers,


Matt
 
#7 ·
Hi -

Thanks for carrying out the tasks required. I have found out enough specs for the MBAM results (I was after the Service Pack - SP1). Scan found nothing which is good.

Next stage,

Check 'Windows Update' - Scan for updates/install if found. Should be able to find and install SP2 if not, I will link you do a download source. Post back results of that. Have you actually exainamed the HDD? - 'My Computer' - C: - Right Click - Properties - List free space/Used space in the next post please.

Regards, - GJ.
 
#8 ·
Hi again GJ, yeah I've examined the HDD through the WinDirStat when she said that the HD was too full to install the PS CS5 trial (which is what we're trying to do), and found nothing that jumped out as untoward, instead of the massive amount of DLL files and the odd 'partitioning' of the HDD.

The C:/ properties are Used: 31.7GB, Free 802MB
The D:/ properties are Used: 6.58GB, Free 25.6GB

The C drive has freed up a bit now as I've just ran the diskcleanup operation again.

Doing the SP2 update now...

Thanks again.

Matt
 
#10 ·
Hi -

Thanks again for being so prompt and carrying out task when asked - Really does help! :)

SP2 update may take a while, while we wait, could you download and install 'CCleaner' - A handy little program that will remove temporary files and internet history - cookies etc. - CCleaner - Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download

This should also assist in freeing up some space.

Once SP2 update is downloaded and install we will look at why Application Extensions appears so large.

Regards, - GJ
 
#11 ·
You'll probably find as with a majority of laptops, the D: Drive is a recovery drive, storing all vital drivers, and vista recovery files.

Has she ever had to recover the system if so, all her old programs/files etc will still be there just hidden.
 
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#12 ·
Hi Kenny,

I've followed those steps and the cleanup/delete of the system restore and shadow copies hasn't appeared to increase HDD size at all on either C or 'D' drives.

Do you know why this 'DATA (D:\) drive even exists?

I am thoroughly stumped.


Matt
 
#14 ·
Hi Matt,

Have you considered formatting the C: drive? As i said in my previous post, has a recovery been made on the system before? If so her previous programs/files/folders etc may still be stored on the system, im not to familiar with the Vista layout, but if its the case, usually you can find all the previous files, within document & settings on the C: drive.
 
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#15 · (Edited)
data D is just that, someone/something has partitioned this...the recovery drive never exceeds 10 gb's, if you look in disk management it should show all your partitions...start>RIGHT click computer>manage>disk management(left hand side) ...take a screenshot, if possible...see screen shot, extend the screen all the way to the right..
 

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#19 ·
hi
im not an expert at computers but i have a couple of ideas.

this is the info you posted on the windirstat pic -
The ACER bar is red (full) with '6.35MB free of 32.5GB' but the DATA bar is blue with 26.2GB free of 32.2GB - it's almost like the drive has been partitioned. but she has never told the computer to do so. Oddly, word documents for example can be saved into a D:\ location, and dragging files out of a C:\ location to a D:\ location copies the files to that destination, not moves them.

this is showing the drive divided into 2 partitions but there is about 10gig missing.
on the windirstat pic it is showing windows dir at 65.7% (of 32 gig ?) this seems to be very high jjust for the OS.

i would use chkdsk to see if you have bad sectors and check the windows dir to see what is using up that much disc space.

i hope this is some help .
wildy
 
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