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Having Problems W/Fresh Install New HD

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Well sir ... I'm working on my friend's computer. He had been having trouble with it not loading windows or freezing up, or crashing. Win7 32 bit was installed along with Win XP as a dual boot system. It was weird because windows would not boot without the install disc in the DVD player.

He got tired of the situation and bought a new hd. I installed a new Western Digital Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM. I did a fresh install of Win7 64 bit. Three different times when it booted up after I installed windows I would get a boot fail message. Don't have any idea why.

It usually happened when the system rebooted. If I did a cold boot it was okay. I figured perhaps once all the 114 update were installed it would clear up, so far so good on that.

The problem really started when I tried to transfer files from the old drives (3). The old drive with the dual OS was a sata drive. When I hooked it up instead of the new drive booting up the old drive did. I didn't under stand that.

Then I tried to see if I could get files from the second old hd that was a IDE drive using a PCI card for a IDE slot to hook up the drive. Windows locked up trying to find the driver. I got a BSOD because of the driver issue while trying to reboot. Had to do another repair because it would not boot up into windows.

I tried the sata drive again and this time it behaved properly and I was able to get the files. After that when I tried to reboot, the computer was slow and was locking up again ....I disconnected the old sata drive, but had problems booting into windows so had to do another repair ... now I am back into windows again. Any idea why I am having problems. Could the old hard drives be corrupt?:facepalm::huh: I need those files on those drives.:ermm:
 
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Update ... I couldn't get windows to close ... it would just hang ... hit the reset button and got the disc boot failure insert install disc. Something just doesn't add up.:nonono:
 
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:wavey:Unfortunately I don't have a usb adapter. What is worst is even with the old drives disconnected I am having trouble with the new drive and OS ... It is locking up a lot, and I can get a disc boot failure message some times ... What happened and how do I correct it?:facepalm:
 
#7 ·
Try replacing the SATA cable. Also, use a different Power Plug from the PSU. Use a different SATA port on the motherboard.
You can purchase an IDE to USB adapter at any computer store, electronics store etc or order it online.
 
#8 ·
Okay ... I think I got the locking up problem solved ... I forgot to install the drivers for the mobo for the new hard drive. I switch to a sata raid card with a IDE slot. The BIOS has the IDE drive listed in the priority boot section and the device manager in windows 7 states the raid controller is working properly, yet windows 7 doesn't see the IDE hard drive.:nonono: Any idea why and how to get windows to see it?:ermm:
 
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:wavey: Well sir ... I went into disk management and it sees the hard drive, but it states that it is "not initialized" It is unallocated and when I right click in the space the menu is grayed out except for properties. I am unable to create a new simple volume. Do I have to use a third party software to initialized it?:ermm:
 
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In Disk Management, on the lower half of the window, the Disk #'s (eg) Disk 1, Disk 2 etc, Where it says, Not Initialized, right click that area and choose to Initialize disk. If this fails, then either the drive has failed or the IDE controller is not working correctly.
You can attach the IDE drive with a USB Adapter.
 
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:wavey:Well sir ... I had to reset the CMOS to help straighten out problems I was having booting up the computer. When I did that Windows could see the drive in the disk manager and I was able to make a new simple volume.

The problem now is in order to open the drive I have to format it and I don't want to do that :nonono: because there is data on the disk I need. Will the USB adapter solve my problem by allowing me to get the data off it and put it on the new drive???:hide:.
 
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Okay ... I purchase this adapter. Got it today ... I hooked up the usb to the slot in the mobo and I have the power supply hooked up to the IDE drive. It was able to install the ÜSB Mass Storage Device", but a ST31001 1A USB Device driver didn't install I got a message that the device unplugged ... I don't understand that.:nonono: Without that driver the computer will crash if I try to look at the files on the IDE drive. What can I do to get this to work. I MUST get this data off these hard drives.:cry:
 
#15 · (Edited)
You can try and recover your files by using the free TestDisk program. I have had the best luck with GetDataBack. You will need another drive of the same size or larger to restore your files to.
You need power attached to the Drive for it to spin up. With the drive hooked to the adapter, does it spin up? If you put your hand on it does it vibrate? if you put your ear next to it, do you hear it spinning or is it cold? If there is no life, the HDD has failed.
If it is spinning up, Hook this drive up internally to a Desktop computer as a Secondary Drive. Go to Disk Management. if the drive is listed there but not in Windows, you can try and recover the files using the programs in the Quote above. Always keep a backup of files you can't live without on more then one HDD.
If all fails, the only other recourse you have is to send the drive off to the Very, Very Expensive Data Recovery Specialist. Most people can't afford this option.
 
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I tried a data recover software I think it was test disk ... it run for two days then at 76% it aborted. All that time wasted.:nonono: Nothing is going on with the drive, but windows is telling me a unknown usb device needs a driver. I figured if I can find this ST31001 1A USB Device driver I could get it to work.:ermm:
 
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Oh and I forgot to mention the hard drive hooked up to the USB adapter is vibrating ... it is alive ... just need that driver ... also I tried using Linix Live to see if I could get the data that way, but unfortunately it didn't see the IDE hard drive.:nonono:
 
#18 · (Edited)
There are no drivers required for USB devices. Be sure you are plugging this into the Back USB port of the desktop computer and not the front or through a Hub as these ports are weaker. If using an external power source, be sure to plug it directly into the Wall and not through a surge protector or extension cord. There may be an issue with the USB adapter. If this drive is not getting enough power from the USB port, it will report that it needs a driver.
Please attach this drive internally to a Desktop computer as a Secondary (Slave) drive not the boot drive, to avoid issues with the adapter or put it into a USB Enclosure or Dock with a power adapter.
 
#19 ·
I'm using the computer's P/S to power the hard drive. Windows 7 did install the one driver when I hooked the USB adapter to the back in the mobo USB port. I read that I am suppose to have the slave bridged on the IDE hard drive. It is getting enough power windows7 keep stating it needs a driver.
 
#20 ·
If using USB it doesn't matter if the jumper pin is in Slave or Master, but move it to Master just in case. There are no drivers required. If Windows reports that it needs a driver, then there is an issue with the USB Adapter. Try it on another computer.
 
#21 ·
I tried the USB adapter on my main computer and for the one IDE disc it worked ... I was about to transfer the files to my friend's computer using teamviewer. The second IDE with the most space is showing up, but it wants me to format in order to open it.:facepalm: I'm going to try the software to recover data again and see if it works on this computer.
 
#22 ·
Anyone know how to use the active partition recovery tool? It was able to show me the lost files and partitions, but when I tried to do a recovery ... under the recover volume in place tab ...

"Not ready for recovery ...
Reason: Disk has not been initialized. Either MBR is missing or corrupted on the disk.
Action:You can try to fix MBR (execute related command from Partition menu). It will erase existing partition records (if any), however you can scan, detect and recover lost partitions later on."

I don' see anything in the tool that will do that. I tried a couple of other tools (BCD and bootice) and I don't see a way to fix the MBR on what windows is calling the H drive.

I trying to do a recover volume in place recovery because I don't have a drive to store the data on.:nonono:
 
#23 ·
You can try and recover your files by using the free TestDisk program. I have had the best luck with GetDataBack. You will need another drive of the same size or larger to restore your files to.
TestDisk which is the only totally free recovery program and GetDataBack do not require a drive to be initialized like Active Partition Recovery. The word Active in the name, means the partition must be Initialized.
You also can try Partition Find and Mount.
 
#24 · (Edited)
I tried the TestDisk, but it didn't work. I've done so much I can't remember why TestDisk didn't work. I'll try the getdataback. Thanks.

Update ... now I remember about TestDisk ... I got warnings about the number of heads/cylinder mismatches 255 <NTFS> !=64 <HD> and another warning about the number of sectors per track mismatches 63 <NTFS> != 32 <HD> ... and I didn't know what to do about it.:hide:

Another warning at the end that states : the current number of heads per cylinder is 64 but the correct value may be 16. You can use the Geometry menu to change this value. I tried that but it didn't work.:nonono:
 
#26 ·
I ran the GetDataBack and it took all night and part of the day because it kept stopping went the computer went to sleep. At the end of the scan it reported no data found.:nonono: Over 12 hours and nothing.:facepalm:
 
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