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Old 08-14-2010, 04:58 PM   #1
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Hi, I have a 2006 Chevy Cobalt LS Sedan.

I am getting this P0411 message.. I have had the Secondary Air injection check valve ( taking of another cobalt ) AND pump replaced and they light is still on displaying the same message even after i reset the computer.. What are your thoughts?
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:23 PM   #2
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all codes have a diagnoses tree that you have to follow to figure out what is wrong .. you can guess and replace parts if you want to waste money or follow the tree testing and figure out what it is

a bad valve will cause the pump to go bad ... and replacing it with a used unit isnt the smartest idea may be the cheapest but not the smartest ... unless you are 100% sure the used one is good

my problem is i dont have the diagnosing tree to look at and walk you thru it ... i know you can go to the library an get a copy of it

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found this may help you
http://www.sandyblogs.com/cgi-bin/mt...gs=10&limit=20

Replace A.I.R manifold .... Don't replace A.I.R. pump and related parts.
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I did find a fuse that was blown, and it did go to the air pump so i changed that and now im waiting to see if the light goes off.
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I am just wondering.. we changed the fuse on Tuesday. how long does it take for the check engine light to go off if we did fix the problem. I read that i need like 3 full cycles..
what r ur thoughts?
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:30 PM   #6
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The light may or may not go out on its won, Chevy computers store codes until they are cleared out with a code reader, I'd say go to a parts store and have them clear the code and then see how long it takes for it to come back on, if it even does.
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The light may or may not go out on its won, Chevy computers store codes until they are cleared out with a code reader, I'd say go to a parts store and have them clear the code and then see how long it takes for it to come back on, if it even does.
I just went to AutoZone and they checked the code and i asked them to clear it, but they told me they couldnt do it.. O well my buddy has a code reader and hell do it
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Ill post here again when either the light goes on, or after 2 weeks.
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If it stays off for more than a week you fixed it :)
If ya were around here I'd say bring it by and I'd clear it for ya, there's a way to do it without a code reader, but I'm not sure if Cobalt does that, I'd have to physically look under the hood, and at the fuse box
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I can tell you two ways to turn the SES light off. Disconnect the battery for about 20 minutes, or the easy way is to pull the PCM fuse for about 5 minutes. Of course if you have a code reader or scan tool, you can do it with them.
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I can tell you two ways to turn the SES light off. Disconnect the battery for about 20 minutes, or the easy way is to pull the PCM fuse for about 5 minutes. Of course if you have a code reader or scan tool, you can do it with them.
You mean GM went back to the old ways and took the memory battery out of the new computers?
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OK so the light went back on... What should i do now ><
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You need to use a higher end scan tool that allows diagnostic testing so you can command the pump on and check what reading the flow sensor is giving, there is a relay and fuses in the circuit but without the ability to tell the ecm to send the on command it's hard to tell what actually happening, there is still a good possibility the replacement pump is bad or seized from sitting in a salvage yard exposed.
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What if i cant get access to a high end scan tool.. is there any other thing i can look for/do..
And When I first started this thread and before i reset it AFTER i changed the fuse, but BEFORE i reset the check engine light the code was :P4011 but it also said Pending.. so does this mean that i cleared the code out the was on but when i come back on it is the code that was pending and that i just need to reset it again? The people who i bought this car from are very stubborn and I will not take it to a deal and pay out of my pocket. its a long story, but ill leave it as that..
But please dont give up on me!!! i bought this car back in earlier june and to this day the error is still there..
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there are 2 things you can do when the light comes on and sets a code to memory

You can clear the code and see if it comes back or do repairs and clear the code and see if that fixed it
If you clear the code and it comes back it is NOT fixed yet

you dont have to take it to the dealership ... there are a ton of independents repair shops that are totally capable of doing the repairs
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A code that's pending will not command the check engine light on, a pending code is one that did not appear to respond to the ecm once or twice it normally takes 3 hits to turn it from pending to active and lite the MIL
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Ok thanks.
But today i checked the fuse that i changed out and it is blown again.. I have been reading on this federal emissions defect warranty stuff and will this cover my problem?
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5 years, 50.000 miles I believe it is.
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5 years, 50.000 miles I believe it is.
so its an 06, with 35k miles.. but it is a salvage vehicle. because its salvage, does this still apply?
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Good question, probably best to ask the dealer.
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I know this is an old thread but my 2008 Cobalt is having the same issue of blowing the secondary air injection fuse. I was wondering what Labarr15 had done to repair this issue. Thanks

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