I don't know if it's right place to post question here... *Forgive me if its wrong*
I am looking for replacement/new motherboard that can handle 400w PSU, Single 1 GB Memory stick (PC3400), ATI 9250 Rageon Vid card (8X) and is intergraded with 2.0 USB. Any idea where I could find good mobo and is impossible to melt :laugh:
m/b's usually have problems when the power supply goes either because they have been run without enough power to run the system or because of a power surge
current day computers require a quality 550w+
Sorry but I wish people would stop this misconception as good advice.
I'm running a Fortron 350W on what is a typical system for most people without problem.
P4 Prescott at 3GHz (and this is a hungrier cpu than most), 4 sticks of 512 ram 2GB total, a 120GB sata drive, floppy, dvd writer and finally a GeForce 6800GT oc'd to ultra speeds. 3 internal fans, 1 external usb device and the usual onboard sound and lan.
Infact, this calculator puts my system at using around 300W now. Maybe if you're running a dual core, SLI with two raptors in raid maybe you'd need 500W, but that surely is not a typical PC.:4-dontkno
When mentioned that a psu should be 550 or higher, it is usually taking into consideration external devices that will be connected, future peripherals, efficiency percentage, longevity, and just overall cost consciousness. Your 350W fortron, figuring in your calculated consumption and the efficiency percentage of Fortron is BARELY enough to support what you've got now let alone any upgrades or external devices. And since you probably aren't looking at the calculator while playing a game or running an application, your power consumption that you stated is while the system is idling. There for during load, your performance is reduced to compensate for the lack of power.
Sorry but I wish people would stop this misconception as good advice.
I'm running a Fortron 350W on what is a typical system for most people without problem.
P4 Prescott at 3GHz (and this is a hungrier cpu than most), 4 sticks of 512 ram 2GB total, a 120GB sata drive, floppy, dvd writer and finally a GeForce 6800GT oc'd to ultra speeds. 3 internal fans, 1 external usb device and the usual onboard sound and lan.
Infact, this calculator puts my system at using around 300W now. Maybe if you're running a dual core, SLI with two raptors in raid maybe you'd need 500W, but that surely is not a typical PC.:4-dontkno
I would seriously consider beginning the search for a new power supply. Even if everything is working fine and has been for a while that thing is cranking out serious heat, when it does begin to fail it's likely to take some components with it. I had a 420W Raidmax with a similar system. I never had any problems but when I upgraded to my 535W Enermax there was a definite improvement. Have you installed any programs to check your +5V, +3.3V, and +12V lines? My Raidmax was @11.87 for a long time, my Enermax is a between 12.06-12.16.
Thank you for information about PSU... can we get back to topic please? I am looking for a mobo mostly than concering about PSU and what mobo would it be? Isnt there any link perhaps that can help me find good mobo?
I don't think they've released the mobo that's impossible to melt yet. My personal favorites are ASUS and MSI. I'm currently running an ECS (usually considered a low quality mb manufacturer) which was underpowered for the first 2 months and still seems rock-solid, but it's still only about 2 1/2 months old. At one point I had all 4 IDE devices and all 4 SATA hdd's hooked up trying to recover data from damaged hdd's and the north bridge never got over 45C.
A quick browse at Newegg doesn't turn up any companies I recognize for your board but I was able to find this through pricewatch, but I don't know anything about the reputation of the seller: MSI MSI-K7N2GM-V AMD Athlon/AthlinXP I don't know about the PC3400 as I've never head of it, but if it is the standard 184 pin ram it should work on a pc3200 board (I'm assuming it is PC3200 factory overclocked?)
Please find me any sort of review or tech savy article stating the use of a 350watt PSU as adaquate on a P4 system. In the process of said search I think you are going to absorb some countering info.
For UK and Europe I use www.overclockers.co.uk. They're cheaper in some cases than buying directly from the manufacturers and have a good range of quality products catering for all types of computer user. Check it out!
jnob,Rashiki,linderman & MunkyPhil... Thank you for these link. I found it's much better than ebay. The previous mobo that was damaged, was bought through ebay. There's few possibility reason why it was damaged:
1:the seller wrap it with plastic bubbles which produce ESD
2: Improper Overclock (Don't have much knowledge)
3: Incompatible PSU (my previous: asus A&N266-C) vs 400w PSU.
I think the major reason why it was damged because of overclocked requring lot PSU feed. And Thank god processor is okay. So is there a way I could find out how to overclock the system without causing any danger to mobo or processor? Any tips or hint? Does PSU have something to do with overclock or so? Bear with me, I just started learned hard core stuffs about computer few months, and hopefully with your help and collecting or stuffing information in my brain, I would reach to techs level.
Once again thanks for link... any idea about overclocking?
If you do choose to forego any warnings and knowing you may well end up with friend equipment, increse settings slowly, and in small increments. Only change one setting at a time, and make sure the system doesn't produce any errors and is stable before changing more settings.
Does PSU have something to do with overclock or so?
As you increase frequencies to make things run faster, they will consume more energy, so a PSU that exceeds what you have now is a must. Also, a concern of overclocking is the extra heat generaged by higher frequencies. If you have stock cooling or only one or two case fans, you don't want to go a lot higher than stock frequencies. "stock" heatsinks aren't exactly built for maximum cooling, they're more to just kinda do the job. Look at any overclocked computer, and there will be aftermarket heatsinks/fans etc to keep their investments cool.
Check out this site, this good person seems to know what he is doing and has taken the liberty of imparting his wisdom so that the rest of us might enjoy a speedier computing experience. In other words, here's how to overclock your PC:
If I were you though I wouldn't bother. The risk to your system compared to the performance increase you'll get isn't worth it. Your computer simply isn't good enough and you'll have to spend a significant sum to bring it up to overclocking spec. Heat and power are the two biggest obstacles to overclockers and you haven't got the hardware to deal with it.
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