Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn

shahid khan · 07-08-2009, 11:30 PM

Hi Im new to Designing & Programming world, I want to learn the basics of Designing & Programming, Is any body knows any site.

Help

Shahid khan

**jamiemac2005** · 07-09-2009, 08:20 AM

Depends where you want to start, i'm guessing since you posted here that you want to start in web design?

The best tutorials around (without despute) are W3Schools.

Start with the HTML tutorials, then move onto the CSS tutorials and that will give you the basics (Building and Designing). Then if you wish to make dynamic content move onto a Server-Side language. It's also adviseable to go through the "Web Building" tutorials(Bottom of the left hand navigation)... Because it gives you a good insite into some major do's and dont's.

I also suggest rather than using Notepad for coding you use either:
Notepad++ - An open source notepad with some brilliant programming features.
Dreamweaver - A brilliant (non-free) WYSIWYG editor, with a code editor.

Cheers,
Jamey

shahid khan · 07-09-2009, 11:43 PM

Thanks a Lot Jamiemac2005

**jamiemac2005** · 07-10-2009, 06:33 AM

That's k =] happy coding. Good luck, and we're always here to help if you get stuck at any point =]

Cheers,
Jamey

~~calthephenom~~ · 07-10-2009, 12:53 PM

definetly learn html and css before you touch php/asp/etc with a 90 foot pole
side note, you don't happen to have a 90 foot pole do you
www.w3schools.com is good

**jamiemac2005** · 07-10-2009, 01:25 PM

Through W3 you could learn php whilst learning html and have no problems. But i also think it's best starting at the beginning(HTML) and moving on from there once you know what's possible and how to accomplish it.

~~calthephenom~~ · 07-11-2009, 08:20 PM

dubya dubya dubya dot w3schools.com

**DJ-Zep** · 07-13-2009, 05:19 PM

I am personally a fan of the "For Dummies" books. I highly recommend any of these books for learning web design. They are very newbie-friendly and usually contain a lot of detailed explanations.

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/comput...velopment.html Check out some of those articles/books.

**jamiemac2005** · 07-13-2009, 06:40 PM

Hmm, personally i'm against the for dummies books, i guess it's a bit of a "what you're into" thing... But the first web development books i read were; HTML 4.0 for Dummies and Javascript for dummies (learned CSS online so the jump was there)... Note: That was a while ago before i'd had any programming knowledge.

As it is i don't think the for dummies books promote clean coding and cross browser compatibility, and personally i much prefer the O'Reilly books (Especially "Javascript the Definitive guide")... I also felt a little stranded after the for dummies books, not knowing where to go post-reading... Either way i think any media is good and as long as you're trying to learn to code you will learn well. Determination and willpower towards learning help a lot. The O'Reilly books can seem a little bit of a mountain to climb when you get started (because of the enormous page count and so on)... TBH the W3 standards change so frequently that i think learning from a book you can learn a lot of old standard stuff.

Still, good luck with learning, no matter which way you go, i always believe that W3Schools is the best resource for learning to code and generally learn web development.

Cheers,
Jamey

**ahmorrow** · 07-18-2009, 07:31 AM

I think it depends on what you want. If you want to get it done it ten minutes or you're just looking for a syntax that will work ForDummies is a good site. Helped me understand a bit of JS that w3c totally confused me with. W3c is the... 'correct' place to learn however. Mostly because they're anal about keeping the languages on the site updated and archived. ForDummies might be able to keep up, but it's rare for a private site like that to do what w3c has done.

Personally I go to different sites, find something I like, tear the code apart and put it back together with my own. That's how I learned html when I was starting out, and I was like... 8 or 9.

Didn't have the internet, didn't want to read a book, so I took some html files from the schools computers and ripped 'em to shreds on my laptop running Windows 3.0

P.S. For those of you wondering, there hasn't been a change to Paint since it first came out in 3.0 until recently... and the only change I've seen is the way you zoom in XP

rhythmicdias · 07-18-2009, 12:05 PM

No. 1 is w3c, but save this link, you'll find helpful once you start off with basics of html. These are video tutorials http://www.educationonlineforcompute...ideo-tutorials

"http:// www. youtube. com/ watch?v=GwQMnpUsj8I" - HTML Basics and CSS. (delete the spaces, i added them because the link automatically embeds into video player here and loads the video.

07-08-2009, 11:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
shahid khan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9 OS: vista	Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn Hi Im new to Designing & Programming world, I want to learn the basics of Designing & Programming, Is any body knows any site. Help Shahid khan

07-09-2009, 08:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
jamiemac2005 Design Team Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,878 OS: Vista, various linux distros	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn Depends where you want to start, i'm guessing since you posted here that you want to start in web design? The best tutorials around (without despute) are W3Schools. Start with the HTML tutorials, then move onto the CSS tutorials and that will give you the basics (Building and Designing). Then if you wish to make dynamic content move onto a Server-Side language. It's also adviseable to go through the "Web Building" tutorials(Bottom of the left hand navigation)... Because it gives you a good insite into some major do's and dont's. I also suggest rather than using Notepad for coding you use either: Notepad++ - An open source notepad with some brilliant programming features. Dreamweaver - A brilliant (non-free) WYSIWYG editor, with a code editor. Cheers, Jamey __________________ Myspace

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shahid khan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9 OS: vista	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn Thanks a Lot Jamiemac2005

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jamiemac2005 Design Team Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,878 OS: Vista, various linux distros	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn That's k =] happy coding. Good luck, and we're always here to help if you get stuck at any point =] Cheers, Jamey __________________ Myspace

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~~calthephenom~~ Troubled Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 71 OS: Computer = WXP, Server = linux w/ php 5	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn definetly learn html and css before you touch php/asp/etc with a 90 foot pole side note, you don't happen to have a 90 foot pole do you www.w3schools.com is good

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jamiemac2005 Design Team Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,878 OS: Vista, various linux distros	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn Through W3 you could learn php whilst learning html and have no problems. But i also think it's best starting at the beginning(HTML) and moving on from there once you know what's possible and how to accomplish it. __________________ Myspace

07-11-2009, 08:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
~~calthephenom~~ Troubled Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 71 OS: Computer = WXP, Server = linux w/ php 5	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn dubya dubya dubya dot w3schools.com

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DJ-Zep Design Team Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,541 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium (x64) My System	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn I am personally a fan of the "For Dummies" books. I highly recommend any of these books for learning web design. They are very newbie-friendly and usually contain a lot of detailed explanations. http://www.dummies.com/how-to/comput...velopment.html Check out some of those articles/books. __________________ Nice music blog Nvu \|\| Notepad++ \|\| Apache \|\| PHP \|\| Keep TSF Alive "The great thing about a computer notebook is that no matter how much you stuff into it, it doesn't get bigger or heavier."

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jamiemac2005 Design Team Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,878 OS: Vista, various linux distros	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn Hmm, personally i'm against the for dummies books, i guess it's a bit of a "what you're into" thing... But the first web development books i read were; HTML 4.0 for Dummies and Javascript for dummies (learned CSS online so the jump was there)... Note: That was a while ago before i'd had any programming knowledge. As it is i don't think the for dummies books promote clean coding and cross browser compatibility, and personally i much prefer the O'Reilly books (Especially "Javascript the Definitive guide")... I also felt a little stranded after the for dummies books, not knowing where to go post-reading... Either way i think any media is good and as long as you're trying to learn to code you will learn well. Determination and willpower towards learning help a lot. The O'Reilly books can seem a little bit of a mountain to climb when you get started (because of the enormous page count and so on)... TBH the W3 standards change so frequently that i think learning from a book you can learn a lot of old standard stuff. Still, good luck with learning, no matter which way you go, i always believe that W3Schools is the best resource for learning to code and generally learn web development. Cheers, Jamey __________________ Myspace

07-18-2009, 07:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
ahmorrow God (TSF Enthusiast) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jeffersonville, IN Posts: 863 OS: Ubuntu 9.10 [Karmic Koala] My System	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn I think it depends on what you want. If you want to get it done it ten minutes or you're just looking for a syntax that will work ForDummies is a good site. Helped me understand a bit of JS that w3c totally confused me with. W3c is the... 'correct' place to learn however. Mostly because they're anal about keeping the languages on the site updated and archived. ForDummies might be able to keep up, but it's rare for a private site like that to do what w3c has done. Personally I go to different sites, find something I like, tear the code apart and put it back together with my own. That's how I learned html when I was starting out, and I was like... 8 or 9. Didn't have the internet, didn't want to read a book, so I took some html files from the schools computers and ripped 'em to shreds on my laptop running Windows 3.0 P.S. For those of you wondering, there hasn't been a change to Paint since it first came out in 3.0 until recently... and the only change I've seen is the way you zoom in XP

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rhythmicdias Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 13 OS: win2k, XP	Re: Fresher to Designing & Programming, want to learn No. 1 is w3c, but save this link, you'll find helpful once you start off with basics of html. These are video tutorials http://www.educationonlineforcompute...ideo-tutorials "http:// www. youtube. com/ watch?v=GwQMnpUsj8I" - HTML Basics and CSS. (delete the spaces, i added them because the link automatically embeds into video player here and loads the video. Last edited by rhythmicdias; 07-18-2009 at 12:24 PM.