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Old 06-24-2009, 08:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am useing Dreamweaver to create my website. I have noticed that things are not working with the website in FoxFire, such as my links. Also the page is laided out differently in FoxFire than Internet Explorer.

How do I get the website to work properly in FoxFire?
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How do I get the website to work properly in FoxFire?
The simple answer to this is that you can't do it using dreamweaver's WYSIWYG features. You'd have to learn to write and use HTML and CSS yourself. If you want to start on that journey then go here: W3Schools.

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Re: Dreamweaver with Foxfire
I disagree, Jaime - at least with the idea that you can't use DW's WYSIWYG features. He should learn HTML/CSS to (at least) tweak his web code, but I don't think it's as black and white as what basically reads as "don't use Dreamweaver" - or any IDE for that matter. Realistically, for something like LINKS to look different is kinda bizarre because that's about as cross-browser as you can get. :P

Please post your code, kbilleg. It may be less of a browser thing and more of a layout thing.
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Haha, okay, to clarify: i use dreamweaver, and it can be extremely useful to use the WYSIWYG editor to mock stuff up, but in all my experience i've never had it throw out cross browser compatible code (until i modded my copy)... So sorry if i sound as if i'm bashing DW, i'm not, i love the thing. Change "don't use DW" to "Don't use Web Easy" and i'm happy =] lol.

And yep, post your code, or (Preferably) post a link to your site (preferable if you have many images/non-standard layout objects)... And we'll see what can be done about it.

I'm guessing it's a very Tables-based layout (again my pet peeve with DW, but it can be overcome)...
Oh and sorry, i must have skimmed this post because i didn't see the links problem, i'm guessing that's dw's JS code... That can be overcome easily =]

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Ugh, yeah what's up with all those "Web Easy" threads in the last year or so? I've never used it - I just see a ton of things like "it doesn't do this" "it doesn't do that" ... of course not, or it wouldn't be called web 'easy' :P
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Dreamweaver with Foxfire
I do know how to read and create html. I have made an entire website with only HTML. I just don't see anything wrong with the coding.
I believe my big problem in the website is using frames, but the links at the top should still show. Below is the website link & the coding.

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www.schmidtmachine.com


<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Top</title>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
body **
background-color: #CC0000;
}
.style2 **
font-size: 36px;
font-weight: bold;
}
-->
</style>
<script src="Scripts/AC_RunActiveContent.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function MM_preloadImages() ** //v3.0
var d=document; if(d.images)** if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0)** d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
}

function MM_findObj(n, d) ** //v4.01
var p,i,x; if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) **
d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
}

function MM_nbGroup(event, grpName) ** //v6.0
var i,img,nbArr,args=MM_nbGroup.arguments;
if (event == "init" && args.length > 2) **
if ((img = MM_findObj(args[2])) != null && !img.MM_init) **
img.MM_init = true; img.MM_up = args[3]; img.MM_dn = img.src;
if ((nbArr = document[grpName]) == null) nbArr = document[grpName] = new Array();
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
for (i=4; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) **
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = args[i+1];
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
} else if (event == "over") **
document.MM_nbOver = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=1; i < args.length-1; i+=3) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) **
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = (img.MM_dn && args[i+2]) ? args[i+2] : ((args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up);
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
}
} else if (event == "out" ) **
for (i=0; i < document.MM_nbOver.length; i++) **
img = document.MM_nbOver[i]; img.src = (img.MM_dn) ? img.MM_dn : img.MM_up; }
} else if (event == "down") **
nbArr = document[grpName];
if (nbArr)
for (i=0; i < nbArr.length; i++) ** img=nbArr[i]; img.src = img.MM_up; img.MM_dn = 0; }
document[grpName] = nbArr = new Array();
for (i=2; i < args.length-1; i+=2) if ((img = MM_findObj(args[i])) != null) **
if (!img.MM_up) img.MM_up = img.src;
img.src = img.MM_dn = (args[i+1])? args[i+1] : img.MM_up;
nbArr[nbArr.length] = img;
} }
}
//-->
</script>
<meta name="Schmidt" content="Schmidt Machine Company: Machine Shop: Laser &amp; Fabrication: Farm Equipment" />
<meta name="Keywords" content="Laser &amp; Fabrication, Farm Equipment, Machine Shop, Welding, Equipment Parts" />
<meta name="Description" content="Schmidt Machine Company Website" />

<br />
<script type="text/javascript">
var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www.");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-4941354-2");
pageTracker._trackPageview();
</script>
</head>

<body>
<p align="center" class="style2">

Schmidt Machine Company
<BR />
<table width="793" height="51" border="0" align="left" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td><a href="Middlehtml.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Home','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Home','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Home.gif" alt="Home" name="Home" width="57" height="26" border="0" id="Home" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="About Us.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','About','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','About','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/About Us.gif" alt="About Us" name="About" width="84" height="29" border="0" id="About" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="Contact Us.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Contact','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Contact','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Contact Us.gif" alt="" name="Contact" width="90" height="29" border="0" id="Contact" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="Sales.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Sales','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Sales','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Sales.gif" alt="Sales" name="Sales" width="58" height="28" border="0" id="Sales" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="Parts.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Parts','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Parts','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Parts.gif" alt="Parts" name="Parts" width="66" height="27" border="0" id="Parts" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="Laser&amp;Fab.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Laser','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Laser','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Laser Fab.gif" alt="Laser &amp; Fabrication" name="Laser" width="98" height="45" border="0" id="Laser" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="Machine Welding.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Machine','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Machine','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Mach Weld.gif" alt="Machining &amp; Welding" name="Machine" width="98" height="43" border="0" id="Machine" onload="" /></a></td>
<td><a href="Service.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Service','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Service','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Buttons/Service.gif" alt="Service" name="Service" width="69" height="26" border="0" id="Service" onload="" /></a></td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>
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Ugh, yeah what's up with all those "Web Easy" threads in the last year or so? I've never used it - I just see a ton of things like "it doesn't do this" "it doesn't do that" ... of course not, or it wouldn't be called web 'easy' :P
I've never used it either. The thing sounds dire though, creates IE6 only web-sites with depreciated tags and nasty formatting. The GUI looks MS Publisher-like. I'm thinking of reviewing a few(of the major) WYSIWYG editors at some point to at least steer people away from Web Easy. Though i don't want to start because i don't want to use web easy.

Back to OP's problem:
The header's links are hiding below the fold of the first frame. To fix this, remove the positioning elements and un-necessary whitespace from the top.html file:
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<!--Example of what it should look like at the end //-->
<p class="style2">Schmidt Machine Company</p>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="51" width="793">
  <tbody><tr>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Middlehtml.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Home','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Home','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Home.gif" alt="Home" name="Home" id="Home" onload="" border="0" height="26" width="57"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/About%20Us.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','About','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','About','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/About%2520Us.gif" alt="About Us" name="About" id="About" onload="" border="0" height="29" width="84"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Contact%20Us.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Contact','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Contact','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Contact%2520Us.gif" alt="" name="Contact" id="Contact" onload="" border="0" height="29" width="90"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Sales.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Sales','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Sales','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Sales.gif" alt="Sales" name="Sales" id="Sales" onload="" border="0" height="28" width="58"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Parts.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Parts','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Parts','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Parts.gif" alt="Parts" name="Parts" id="Parts" onload="" border="0" height="27" width="66"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Laser&amp;Fab.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Laser','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Laser','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Laser%2520Fab.gif" alt="Laser &amp; Fabrication" name="Laser" id="Laser" onload="" border="0" height="45" width="98"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Machine%20Welding.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Machine','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Machine','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Mach%2520Weld.gif" alt="Machining &amp; Welding" name="Machine" id="Machine" onload="" border="0" height="43" width="98"></a></td>
    <td><a href="http://www.schmidtmachine.com/Service.html" target="mainFrame" onclick="MM_nbGroup('down','group1','Service','',1)" onmouseover="MM_nbGroup('over','Service','','',1)" onmouseout="MM_nbGroup('out')"><img src="Top_data/Service.gif" alt="Service" name="Service" id="Service" onload="" border="0" height="26" width="69"></a></td>
  </tr>
</tbody></table>
</body>
A little bit of positioning will be necessary after, but the links will show. You could also consider changing the table to list items instead, the table based layout is usually very fixed and not that pretty. If you want help with that post back and i'll mock up some basic code.

As for the rest of the layout, that's caused by the differences between the margin and padding of table cells in the two browsers, the only thing i can think of doing to fix that(other than re-writing the table sections of the pages) is to change the margin/padding properties of the tables to "0".

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I will try this.. Thanks for all your help!
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