Google and my Web Site

David PM · 10-02-2006, 05:50 AM

Ok I am not too sure if this is the correct place for this but here goes.

I have a forum that has been up for about a year now. No matter how I try I just cannot seem to get it showing up in Google when I do a search for it under general words that should bring it up. Or it is so far down that no one sees it. I have done the meta tags I have tried all sorts of trick to get it into a better position. Here is the link

http://triumphtalk.com

The way I look at it, it should show up with the following words “Triumph, RAT, Motorbike, plus a variety of the model names” However I can only get it to show up if I use “Triumph Talk” and this will come up as the listing.

Triumph
Triumph, RAT, Triumph RAT, Triumph Classics, British bikes, Riders, Association, Triumph news, Riders Association Of Triumph,
www.triumphtalk.com/ - 102k - Cached - Similar pages

So what am I doing wrong with trying to get this listed in a better position?

**gamerman0203** · 10-02-2006, 07:06 AM

add your site to google. http://www.google.com/addurl/

This isn't a garaunteed fix for this, but it will help. Google is a very very very very very very popular search engine, therefore is has BILLIONS of site and pages to list so one certain site is NEVER garaunteed a good spot.

David PM · 10-02-2006, 07:20 AM

I have done this and it is listed but I just cannot seem to get it to show up with the other Triumph site like I feel it should using the same search criteria as I would for them. I have had a look at the Meta tags that they use and mine are very similar and the same in some cases.

**DJ-Zep** · 10-02-2006, 02:16 PM

Check out Google Sitemaps. Google would crawl your site and most likely add it to the index. Itworked for my site. The thing you need is a sitemap in ROR format. Visit here for one of those. Once you create your sitemap and submit it to google for crawling, give it about two weeks to be displayed in google. Good luck!

Comtrad · 10-02-2006, 03:11 PM

There is nothing on the page for the spider to crawl and see that your site is about talk of the triumph motorcycle. You also have no meta description which is why the description shows the way it shows. Do some research on basic SEO (search engine optimization). Here is a link to start. Click Here

Comtrad · 10-02-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamerman0203

add your site to google. http://www.google.com/addurl/

This isn't a garaunteed fix for this, but it will help. Google is a very very very very very very popular search engine, therefore is has BILLIONS of site and pages to list so one certain site is NEVER garaunteed a good spot.

If it shows up at all in Google, he is already in it.

**devil lady** · 10-02-2006, 04:24 PM

Heres a good site which analyses your meta tags etc and makes suggestions.
http://www.sitesolutions.com/analysis.asp?F=Form

David PM · 10-02-2006, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comtrad

There is nothing on the page for the spider to crawl and see that your site is about talk of the triumph motorcycle. You also have no meta description which is why the description shows the way it shows. Do some research on basic SEO (search engine optimization). Here is a link to start. Click Here

Thanks for the link I have a lot of reading to do there but in the mean time here is my Meta tag that I have on the site.

<META name="verify-v1" content="mGru6lcvt5pXkDwaFwEgdXDAJ6QOeCsU1VGPmOIUwbo=" />

<meta name="Keywords"CONTENT="Triumph, Triumph Motorcycles, RAT, Triumph RAT, Triumph Classics, British bikes, Daytona, Sprint, Speed Triple, Triumph Dealers, Triumph Spares, Bonneville, Adventurer, Trophy, Scrambler, Daytona 955i, Triumph Motorcycles, Rocket, RAT Events, Riding Events, Cafe Racers, Speed Four, TT600, Parts, Accessories, News, Reviews, British bikes , Rocket, Cursers, Classics, Motorcycle movies, Motorcycle News, Events, Triumph FAQ">
<meta name="Description"CONTENT="Triumph, RAT, Triumph RAT, Triumph Classics, British bikes, Riders, Association, Triumph news, Riders Association Of Triumph, ">
<meta name="Author" CONTENT="David">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Web-Source.net">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="all">

Comtrad · 10-03-2006, 07:33 AM

Let me ask you something. Say you were looking for a forum to discuss Fords. (Yes, I know they suck) You see a link on there but all the description says is 'Focus, Explorer, Taurus, etc..' and just names names of the cars. Then you see another link that says something along the lines of a forum to discuss your ford car or truck. Which one would you pick?

Also, you an get rid of the keyword meta tag. It has absolutely no usefulness in search engines nowadays. They don't use them. They figure it out based on the content of your site.

David PM · 10-03-2006, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comtrad

Also, you an get rid of the keyword meta tag. It has absolutely no usefulness in search engines nowadays. They don't use them. They figure it out based on the content of your site.

I know what you are trying to say but I also need to take into account that some people may be searching on a particular model or on the word RAT being Riders Association of Triumph. Now I am not sure when you tell me to leave out the key word meta tag what I need to do here. So should it looks like this

Triumph, Triumph Motorcycles, RAT, Triumph RAT, Triumph Classics, British bikes, Daytona, Sprint, Speed Triple, Triumph Dealers, Triumph Spares, Bonneville, Adventurer, Trophy, Scrambler, Daytona 955i, Triumph Motorcycles, Rocket, RAT Events, Riding Events, Cafe Racers, Speed Four, TT600, Parts, Accessories, News, Reviews, British bikes , Rocket, Cursers, Classics, Motorcycle movies, Motorcycle News, Events, Triumph FAQ

Or must I also have this in at the end.

<meta name="Description"CONTENT="Triumph, RAT, Triumph RAT, Triumph Classics, British bikes, Riders, Association, Triumph news, Riders Association Of Triumph, ">
<meta name="Author" CONTENT="David">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Web-Source.net">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="all">
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Comtrad · 10-03-2006, 08:05 AM

You can leave the keyword tag in there if you like, but it has no use. I was saying just take it out completely.

Try something along the lines of this. Make sure the description is not too long though. Use a simple meta tag analyzer to find this out.
<meta name="Description"CONTENT="A place to discuss Triumph Motorcycles such as (then list certain types here)">
<meta name="Author" CONTENT="David">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Web-Source.net">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="all">

David PM · 10-03-2006, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comtrad

You can leave the keyword tag in there if you like, but it has no use. I was saying just take it out completely.

Try something along the lines of this. Make sure the description is not too long though. Use a simple meta tag analyzer to find this out.
<meta name="Description"CONTENT="A place to discuss Triumph Motorcycles such as (then list certain types here)">
<meta name="Author" CONTENT="David">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Web-Source.net">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="all">

Ok how about thsi one

<TITLE>Triumph RAT triumph motorbike British forum rat triumph motorbike bikes</TITLE>
<META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="Triumph motorbike forum RAT, Bikes, Modifications, rat, triumph, bikes, ">
<META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="Triumph,triumph,RAT,Triumph, RAT, British bikes, Daytona, Sprint, Speed Triple, Triumph Dealers, Bonneville, Adventurer, Trophy, Scrambler, Daytona 955i, Triumph Motorcycles, Rocket, RAT Events, Riding Events, Cafe Racers, Speed Four, TT600, Parts, Accessories, News, Reviews, British bikes , Rocket, Cursers, Classics, Motorcycle movies, Motorcycle News, Events, rat, Rat,bonneville,news,events,motorbike,">
<META NAME="OWNER" CONTENT="DaveM">
<META NAME="COPYRIGHT" CONTENT="Triumphtalk.com">
<META NAME="AUTHOR" CONTENT="DaveM">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="EXPIRES" CONTENT="">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CHARSET" CONTENT="ISO-8859-1">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-LANGUAGE" CONTENT="English">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="VW96.OBJECT TYPE" CONTENT="Document">
<META NAME="RATING" CONTENT="General">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">
<META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="30 days">

Comtrad · 10-03-2006, 08:36 AM

Make the title and the description easy to read. It needs to make sense as well as cover the words you want. Make it a sentance.

David PM · 10-03-2006, 08:43 AM

Ok thanks I will have to do a bit more work on it later and I will post the results here for your review. Thanks for the help so far

David PM · 10-03-2006, 12:48 PM

Ok this is how I have it now

<TITLE>Triumph motorbike forum</TITLE>
<META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="Triumph motorbike forum with lots of info on RAT, events, technical, FAQ plus the different triumph models.">
<META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="Triumph,triumph,RAT,Triumph, RAT, British bikes, Daytona, Sprint, Speed Triple, Triumph Dealers, Bonneville, Adventurer, Trophy, Scrambler, Daytona 955i, Triumph Motorcycles, Rocket, RAT Events, Riding Events, Cafe Racers, Speed Four, TT600, Parts, Accessories, News, Reviews, British bikes , Rocket, Cursers, Classics, Motorcycle movies, Motorcycle News, Events, rat, Rat,bonneville,news,events,motorbike">
<META NAME="OWNER" CONTENT="DaveM">
<META NAME="COPYRIGHT" CONTENT="Triumphtalk.com">
<META NAME="AUTHOR" CONTENT="DaveM">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="EXPIRES" CONTENT="">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CHARSET" CONTENT="ISO-8859-1">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-LANGUAGE" CONTENT="English">
<META HTTP-EQUIV="VW96.OBJECT TYPE" CONTENT="Homepage">
<META NAME="RATING" CONTENT="General">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">
<META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="7 days">

Comtrad · 10-03-2006, 01:33 PM

Seems good to me. Hopefully it will bring you some more visitors. Just don't expect them right away. The SE's have to update the info first.

David PM · 10-05-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comtrad

Seems good to me. Hopefully it will bring you some more visitors. Just don't expect them right away. The SE's have to update the info first.

Ok thanks for the help

10-02-2006, 05:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
David PM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 55 OS: Win XP Pro	Google and my Web Site Ok I am not too sure if this is the correct place for this but here goes. I have a forum that has been up for about a year now. No matter how I try I just cannot seem to get it showing up in Google when I do a search for it under general words that should bring it up. Or it is so far down that no one sees it. I have done the meta tags I have tried all sorts of trick to get it into a better position. Here is the link http://triumphtalk.com The way I look at it, it should show up with the following words “Triumph, RAT, Motorbike, plus a variety of the model names” However I can only get it to show up if I use “Triumph Talk” and this will come up as the listing. Triumph Triumph, RAT, Triumph RAT, Triumph Classics, British bikes, Riders, Association, Triumph news, Riders Association Of Triumph, www.triumphtalk.com/ - 102k - Cached - Similar pages So what am I doing wrong with trying to get this listed in a better position? __________________ - Dave - Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key

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10-02-2006, 03:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Comtrad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somewhere in Illinois Posts: 279 OS: Windows XP	There is nothing on the page for the spider to crawl and see that your site is about talk of the triumph motorcycle. You also have no meta description which is why the description shows the way it shows. Do some research on basic SEO (search engine optimization). Here is a link to start. Click Here

10-03-2006, 07:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
Comtrad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somewhere in Illinois Posts: 279 OS: Windows XP	Let me ask you something. Say you were looking for a forum to discuss Fords. (Yes, I know they suck) You see a link on there but all the description says is 'Focus, Explorer, Taurus, etc..' and just names names of the cars. Then you see another link that says something along the lines of a forum to discuss your ford car or truck. Which one would you pick? Also, you an get rid of the keyword meta tag. It has absolutely no usefulness in search engines nowadays. They don't use them. They figure it out based on the content of your site. __________________ 2006 Time Magazine Person of the Year

10-03-2006, 08:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
Comtrad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somewhere in Illinois Posts: 279 OS: Windows XP	You can leave the keyword tag in there if you like, but it has no use. I was saying just take it out completely. Try something along the lines of this. Make sure the description is not too long though. Use a simple meta tag analyzer to find this out. <meta name="Description"CONTENT="A place to discuss Triumph Motorcycles such as (then list certain types here)"> <meta name="Author" CONTENT="David"> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Web-Source.net"> <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="all"> __________________ 2006 Time Magazine Person of the Year

10-03-2006, 08:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
Comtrad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somewhere in Illinois Posts: 279 OS: Windows XP	Make the title and the description easy to read. It needs to make sense as well as cover the words you want. Make it a sentance. __________________ 2006 Time Magazine Person of the Year

10-03-2006, 08:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
David PM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 55 OS: Win XP Pro	Ok thanks I will have to do a bit more work on it later and I will post the results here for your review. Thanks for the help so far __________________ - Dave - Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key

10-03-2006, 12:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
David PM Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 55 OS: Win XP Pro	Ok this is how I have it now <TITLE>Triumph motorbike forum</TITLE> <META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="Triumph motorbike forum with lots of info on RAT, events, technical, FAQ plus the different triumph models."> <META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="Triumph,triumph,RAT,Triumph, RAT, British bikes, Daytona, Sprint, Speed Triple, Triumph Dealers, Bonneville, Adventurer, Trophy, Scrambler, Daytona 955i, Triumph Motorcycles, Rocket, RAT Events, Riding Events, Cafe Racers, Speed Four, TT600, Parts, Accessories, News, Reviews, British bikes , Rocket, Cursers, Classics, Motorcycle movies, Motorcycle News, Events, rat, Rat,bonneville,news,events,motorbike"> <META NAME="OWNER" CONTENT="DaveM"> <META NAME="COPYRIGHT" CONTENT="Triumphtalk.com"> <META NAME="AUTHOR" CONTENT="DaveM"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="EXPIRES" CONTENT=""> <META HTTP-EQUIV="CHARSET" CONTENT="ISO-8859-1"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="CONTENT-LANGUAGE" CONTENT="English"> <META HTTP-EQUIV="VW96.OBJECT TYPE" CONTENT="Homepage"> <META NAME="RATING" CONTENT="General"> <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow"> <META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="7 days"> __________________ - Dave - Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key

10-03-2006, 01:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
Comtrad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Somewhere in Illinois Posts: 279 OS: Windows XP	Seems good to me. Hopefully it will bring you some more visitors. Just don't expect them right away. The SE's have to update the info first.