Clemens

**speedster123** · 02-13-2008, 12:04 PM

i just watched the hearings with Clemens and the House.
i have to say that i am now embarrassed being a registered Republican.
Do all politicians have to be so damn partisan on every subject?
No wonder the government is in constant gridlock.

I was hoping Mitt Romany would do better, he was bi partisan in Mass. and worked out many good things , and got rid their huge deficient up there.

Juice Head Clemens must have passed out an awful lot of bats and balls to these knuckleheads beforehand.

**forcifer** · 02-14-2008, 05:13 AM

gotta side with him on this. i really dont know though, and dont care too much either..

dogiegone · 02-20-2008, 07:26 PM

Clemens Juiced....mmmmm maybe

**sobeit** · 02-20-2008, 07:33 PM

i honestly dont know who to believe, a person who made a deal to stay out of prison or a baseball record holder.

**speedster123** · 02-23-2008, 12:45 PM

lets see this pic of him at conseco's party that the daily news supposedly has.
he was asked numerous times, and reminded that he was under oath, and yet he denies being there, but now, he might have come later in the day of the party, and his wife might have been alone with macnajerk, bent over, getting a juice shot
in the bed room.

**sobeit** · 02-23-2008, 12:51 PM

I can see how a person can forget about being at a party

**epos159** · 02-26-2008, 09:27 PM

I don't think Andy Pettitte would lie about this... esp after he was willing to come out and admit that he did use HGH. So, in my opinion, Andy having nothing to gain, I think Clemens did use.

**mattlock** · 02-27-2008, 12:21 AM

I think he's guilty, but half of baseball is or was on the juice. Personally I think we're wasting taxpayer dollars on all this BS. There are more important issues facing this country than whether or not a bunch of over paid athletes are on steroids.

**epos159** · 02-27-2008, 04:25 AM

I think it's a waste if nothing is going to be done about it other than the "Gentlemen" getting some autographs! But most of this is considered illegal activity (at least the abuse of steroids is)... and it concerns me for the youth too. So if nothing is going to be pursued about the use in the past, stiffer testing and penalties need to be put in place!

**mattlock** · 02-27-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by epos159

I think it's a waste if nothing is going to be done about it other than the "Gentlemen" getting some autographs! But most of this is considered illegal activity (at least the abuse of steroids is)... and it concerns me for the youth too. So if nothing is going to be pursued about the use in the past, stiffer testing and penalties need to be put in place!

Illegal yes, but that's a matter for the Execute and Judicial branches or the Government, not the Legislative branch.

Why aren't they questioning body builders, Pro wrestlers, Lance Armstong (accused of doping), of NFLers that get suspended for violation of the substance abuse policy? For that matter, how about people that fail random drug tests or pre-employment drugs screens? They are doing illegal things also. Where does it end?

I agree that steroid use sets a bad example for our kids, and those who use are cheaters, but it's not an issue for Congress. It's a job for the DEA, Law Enforcement agencies, and the Judicial system.

**simpswr** · 02-27-2008, 07:57 AM

It show jsut how disfunctional this government is . . do not have the time to pass or not pass the survalence act, but have time to spend a day with a trainer and pitcher to argue over drug use . .

**epos159** · 02-27-2008, 03:08 PM

Yeah.. you're right. It is a job for the judicial branch... my mistake.

**sobeit** · 02-27-2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpswr

It show jsut how disfunctional this government is . . do not have the time to pass or not pass the survalence act, but have time to spend a day with a trainer and pitcher to argue over drug use . .

yep the government needs to get back to spying on americans.

**simpswr** · 02-27-2008, 03:17 PM

There ya go!!! something they know about!!!

WinXPGeek · 03-08-2008, 05:35 PM

Clemens is juiced!!!

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yes and he is a liar with his pants on fire	9	90.00%
no and he is righteous and his wife is an idiot	1	10.00%
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02-13-2008, 12:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York Posts: 3,908 OS: xp pro My System	Clemens i just watched the hearings with Clemens and the House. i have to say that i am now embarrassed being a registered Republican. Do all politicians have to be so damn partisan on every subject? No wonder the government is in constant gridlock. I was hoping Mitt Romany would do better, he was bi partisan in Mass. and worked out many good things , and got rid their huge deficient up there. Juice Head Clemens must have passed out an awful lot of bats and balls to these knuckleheads beforehand. __________________ Infection Detection and Removal Thermal Grease Instructions Bench Test

02-14-2008, 05:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,486 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Clemens gotta side with him on this. i really dont know though, and dont care too much either.. __________________ im back...i guess...

02-20-2008, 07:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
dogiegone Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5 OS: XP service pack 2	Re: Clemens Clemens Juiced....mmmmm maybe

02-20-2008, 07:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 5,290 OS: windows/linux	Re: Clemens i honestly dont know who to believe, a person who made a deal to stay out of prison or a baseball record holder. __________________ Do not feed the trolls.

02-23-2008, 12:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York Posts: 3,908 OS: xp pro My System	Re: Clemens lets see this pic of him at conseco's party that the daily news supposedly has. he was asked numerous times, and reminded that he was under oath, and yet he denies being there, but now, he might have come later in the day of the party, and his wife might have been alone with macnajerk, bent over, getting a juice shot in the bed room. __________________ Infection Detection and Removal Thermal Grease Instructions Bench Test

02-23-2008, 12:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 5,290 OS: windows/linux	Re: Clemens I can see how a person can forget about being at a party __________________ Do not feed the trolls.

02-26-2008, 09:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
epos159 I helped the forums. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: PA Posts: 551 OS: Windows XP Home	Re: Clemens I don't think Andy Pettitte would lie about this... esp after he was willing to come out and admit that he did use HGH. So, in my opinion, Andy having nothing to gain, I think Clemens did use.

02-27-2008, 12:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
mattlock moderator hardware team Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,818 OS: XP SP2, Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon My System	Re: Clemens I think he's guilty, but half of baseball is or was on the juice. Personally I think we're wasting taxpayer dollars on all this BS. There are more important issues facing this country than whether or not a bunch of over paid athletes are on steroids. __________________ Matt Everest-Thermal Paste Instruction-Power Supply Info-Sensorview PSU Calculator-Speedfan-Bench Test Help TSF Fight Disease. It's Free!

02-27-2008, 04:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
epos159 I helped the forums. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: PA Posts: 551 OS: Windows XP Home	Re: Clemens I think it's a waste if nothing is going to be done about it other than the "Gentlemen" getting some autographs! But most of this is considered illegal activity (at least the abuse of steroids is)... and it concerns me for the youth too. So if nothing is going to be pursued about the use in the past, stiffer testing and penalties need to be put in place!

02-27-2008, 07:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
simpswr Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 4,414 OS: XP, Vista	Re: Clemens It show jsut how disfunctional this government is . . do not have the time to pass or not pass the survalence act, but have time to spend a day with a trainer and pitcher to argue over drug use . . __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Spyware Cleaning \| How to Post a Screen shot \| PC running slow]

02-27-2008, 03:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
epos159 I helped the forums. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: PA Posts: 551 OS: Windows XP Home	Re: Clemens Yeah.. you're right. It is a job for the judicial branch... my mistake.

02-27-2008, 03:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
simpswr Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 4,414 OS: XP, Vista	Re: Clemens There ya go!!! something they know about!!! __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Spyware Cleaning \| How to Post a Screen shot \| PC running slow]

03-08-2008, 05:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
WinXPGeek Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 65 OS: Windows XP Professional SP 2 My System	Re: Clemens Clemens is juiced!!!