Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want)

Ironballs · 12-03-2007, 05:04 AM

Anyone here interested?

My main passion is Formula One (Go Hamilton!), but I watch pretty much anything on four wheels, and some on two).
NASCAR is obviously popular in the US, but it's not at all popular in the UK or on mainland Europe. It does have a certain image problem I think.

In fact Formula One IS the most popular motor sport out there, and rightly so :D :D.

**40sondacurb** · 12-03-2007, 07:32 AM

I watch Rally when I can, but they don't air it much here in the states.

yustr · 12-03-2007, 01:29 PM

I used to like auto racing much more than I do today. I went to the USGP F1 race a couple of years a go and loved the pageantry but the race was simply a bore (and no, this was not the year one half didn't race because of tire issues). Hardly any passing and almost no close racing. That's where NASCAR has learned its lesson. Make all the cars equal, bunch them all up, and there'll be passing on every lap. My problem with NASCAR is there's no innovation - I think they still use carburetors!

Also I think there's too many rules. I enjoyed a motorcycle series many years ago for its simplicity - bring whatever you think gets you around the track fastest. Here's the entire rule book: The motorcycle shall have two wheels.

Rallying is fun to watch - from a far. I don't know if I'd stand on the side of the track as they careen out of control.

Ironballs · 12-04-2007, 09:21 AM

You make some good points. F1 CAN be boring (and I'm a huge fan), but I love the technology as well as the incredible handling. The rules have to be fairly complicated because the cars are so complicated. There are massive political problems though.
If you want close battles, then NASCAR is great (My favourite driver is Tony Stewart hehe). I think rally drivers are the best drivers in the world though. Tarmac, Ice, snow, gravel, sand, mud, they go fast on them all. It's mindboggling how fast they go sometimes on surfaces which would leave people like you and me floundering, or just not going anywhere. Yeah, they have specialist tyres etc, but even on tarmac they just fly (find some vids of Rally Ireland for a good example).

mimo2005 · 12-10-2007, 09:03 AM

Former Formula One world champion Fernando Alonso announces hes returning to Renault next season. Brings with him more McLaren (and Ferrari) car info

http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/7546654

Ironballs · 12-12-2007, 08:34 AM

lol... better exclude them then.
Not surprising news really. Hope Piquet Jnr beats him.

**beefers1** · 06-11-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by yustr

I used to like auto racing much more than I do today. I went to the USGP F1 race a couple of years a go and loved the pageantry but the race was simply a bore (and no, this was not the year one half didn't race because of tire issues). Hardly any passing and almost no close racing. That's where NASCAR has learned its lesson. Make all the cars equal, bunch them all up, and there'll be passing on every lap. My problem with NASCAR is there's no innovation - I think they still use carburetors!

Also I think there's too many rules. I enjoyed a motorcycle series many years ago for its simplicity - bring whatever you think gets you around the track fastest. Here's the entire rule book: The motorcycle shall have two wheels.

Rallying is fun to watch - from a far. I don't know if I'd stand on the side of the track as they careen out of control.

NASCAR stock cars haven't changed much since the 80's, requiring a far lower team budget than that of a formula one team, which needs to spend millions each year on new engines and cars just to remain competitive. and that's why you only see those big-name teams winning in F1. i love its fast handling and turning, though.

Shark151 · 06-11-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beefers1

NASCAR stock cars haven't changed much since the 80's, requiring a far lower team budget than that of a formula one team, which needs to spend millions each year on new engines and cars just to remain competitive. and that's why you only see those big-name teams winning in F1. i love its fast handling and turning, though.

Look at the price of a F-1 car, its somewhere around 20x more than a NASCAR stock car. But im a fan ok Kimi Raikonen (sp) and for NASCAR i like Dale Earnhardt jr.

**beefers1** · 06-11-2008, 11:55 PM

dale jr hasn't won a single championship, or a single race since 2006. i don't know why he's been the most popular driver for so long.

Shark151 · 06-12-2008, 12:21 AM

because he's dale jr

bry623 · 06-12-2008, 06:44 AM

I always root for the track.

12-03-2007, 05:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ironballs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 36 OS: Windows XP Sp2	Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) Anyone here interested? My main passion is Formula One (Go Hamilton!), but I watch pretty much anything on four wheels, and some on two). NASCAR is obviously popular in the US, but it's not at all popular in the UK or on mainland Europe. It does have a certain image problem I think. In fact Formula One IS the most popular motor sport out there, and rightly so :D :D.

12-03-2007, 07:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,770 OS: xp	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) I watch Rally when I can, but they don't air it much here in the states. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush

12-03-2007, 01:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore/California Desert Posts: 4,879 OS: PCLinuxOS, XP Pro My System	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) I used to like auto racing much more than I do today. I went to the USGP F1 race a couple of years a go and loved the pageantry but the race was simply a bore (and no, this was not the year one half didn't race because of tire issues). Hardly any passing and almost no close racing. That's where NASCAR has learned its lesson. Make all the cars equal, bunch them all up, and there'll be passing on every lap. My problem with NASCAR is there's no innovation - I think they still use carburetors! Also I think there's too many rules. I enjoyed a motorcycle series many years ago for its simplicity - bring whatever you think gets you around the track fastest. Here's the entire rule book: The motorcycle shall have two wheels. Rallying is fun to watch - from a far. I don't know if I'd stand on the side of the track as they careen out of control. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

12-04-2007, 09:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ironballs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 36 OS: Windows XP Sp2	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) You make some good points. F1 CAN be boring (and I'm a huge fan), but I love the technology as well as the incredible handling. The rules have to be fairly complicated because the cars are so complicated. There are massive political problems though. If you want close battles, then NASCAR is great (My favourite driver is Tony Stewart hehe). I think rally drivers are the best drivers in the world though. Tarmac, Ice, snow, gravel, sand, mud, they go fast on them all. It's mindboggling how fast they go sometimes on surfaces which would leave people like you and me floundering, or just not going anywhere. Yeah, they have specialist tyres etc, but even on tarmac they just fly (find some vids of Rally Ireland for a good example).

12-10-2007, 09:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10,772 OS: xp	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) Former Formula One world champion Fernando Alonso announces hes returning to Renault next season. Brings with him more McLaren (and Ferrari) car info http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/7546654 __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

12-12-2007, 08:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ironballs Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 36 OS: Windows XP Sp2	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) lol... better exclude them then. Not surprising news really. Hope Piquet Jnr beats him.

06-11-2008, 11:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
beefers1 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada Posts: 2,381 OS: Win XP Pro SP2 My System Blog Entries: 4	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) dale jr hasn't won a single championship, or a single race since 2006. i don't know why he's been the most popular driver for so long. __________________ My blog- feel free to visit

06-12-2008, 12:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
Shark151 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 61 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) because he's dale jr

06-12-2008, 06:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,551 OS: winxp pro sp2	Re: Motor Racing (or Auto racing, if you want) I always root for the track. __________________ When you fear Sarah, you attack her and try destroy her