Illegal to Talk About Circumventing Copyright Protection?

Emporer_D · 01-13-2006, 07:04 PM

Taken from PC magazine

Under the DMCA, it's illegal to break encryption or copy protection. It's illegal to offer a tool that breaks encryption or copy protection, or to publish source code that demonstrates how the encryption or copy protection is done. It's illegal to talk about how to circumvent copy protection. In your home, in your car, anywhere. Get the picture?

The anticircumvention provision, as it's called, is very broadly written, and it's widely reviled as one of the worst pieces of legislation in recent memory. It negates several centuries' worth of "fair use" law and practice, as they relate to copyrighted works. The ban on discussing the algorithms and techniques used for encryption and copy protection infringes on the First Amendment. Academics, computer scientists, and researchers have been sued, threatened with suits, and in one case arrested for exposing the weaknesses in some techniques and products. As you can imagine, this has had a chilling effect on the very people we depend on to develop better algorithms and products.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1892745,00.asp

**40sondacurb** · 01-13-2006, 07:20 PM

Yup. It's technically illegal to get rid of your Sony rootkit

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**Fox** · 01-13-2006, 07:28 PM

It was technically illegal for them to put it there in the first place

**superflysmith** · 01-13-2006, 07:53 PM

That is rediculous. You can't even talk about it?
I backup all my kids dvd's. It would get pretty expensive to have to buy the same movie three times. I have been backing up movies for about a year now. I have burned a couple that I don't own but I stopped doing that a long time ago. You should be allowed to backup the dvd's and cd's that you own.

It's pretty coincidental that I opened this thread as my burner is burning a backup copy of Baby Einstein just as I type this. They put to much crap on those dvd's anyways. It's nice to skip everything and get right to the movie which is exactly what my backups do.

**DumberDrummer** · 01-13-2006, 07:55 PM

I don't like the DMCA anymore because of this.

Where do they get off deciding that since they can't change fair use laws, they'll just make it paradoxically impossible to make fair use of your property?

**40sondacurb** · 01-13-2006, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superflysmith

That is rediculous. You can't even talk about it?
I backup all my kids dvd's. It would get pretty expensive to have to buy the same movie three times. I have been backing up movies for about a year now. I have burned a couple that I don't own but I stopped doing that a long time ago. You should be allowed to backup the dvd's and cd's that you own.

It's pretty coincidental that I opened this thread as my burner is burning a backup copy of Baby Einstein just as I type this. They put to much crap on those dvd's anyways. It's nice to skip everything and get right to the movie which is exactly what my backups do.

especially since DVDs don't last nearly as long as VHS.

**superflysmith** · 01-13-2006, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40sondacurb

especially since DVDs don't last nearly as long as VHS.

...and especially since my two year old thinks it's fun to take two dvd's (cd's) one under each hand and slide across the floor with them.

**40sondacurb** · 01-13-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superflysmith

...and especially since my two year old thinks it's fun to take two dvd's (cd's) one under each hand and slide across the floor with them.

lol .

01-13-2006, 07:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Emporer_D Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 237 OS: XP Home SP2, Ubuntu 8.04 My System	Illegal to Talk About Circumventing Copyright Protection? Taken from PC magazine Under the DMCA, it's illegal to break encryption or copy protection. It's illegal to offer a tool that breaks encryption or copy protection, or to publish source code that demonstrates how the encryption or copy protection is done. It's illegal to talk about how to circumvent copy protection. In your home, in your car, anywhere. Get the picture? The anticircumvention provision, as it's called, is very broadly written, and it's widely reviled as one of the worst pieces of legislation in recent memory. It negates several centuries' worth of "fair use" law and practice, as they relate to copyrighted works. The ban on discussing the algorithms and techniques used for encryption and copy protection infringes on the First Amendment. Academics, computer scientists, and researchers have been sued, threatened with suits, and in one case arrested for exposing the weaknesses in some techniques and products. As you can imagine, this has had a chilling effect on the very people we depend on to develop better algorithms and products. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1892745,00.asp __________________ Your mind is like a sword, it's easier to kill people when it's sharp. Last edited by DumberDrummer : 01-13-2006 at 07:13 PM.

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01-13-2006, 07:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
superflysmith An American Hero and Moderator, The Conversation Pit. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,576 OS: XP PRO	That is rediculous. You can't even talk about it? I backup all my kids dvd's. It would get pretty expensive to have to buy the same movie three times. I have been backing up movies for about a year now. I have burned a couple that I don't own but I stopped doing that a long time ago. You should be allowed to backup the dvd's and cd's that you own. It's pretty coincidental that I opened this thread as my burner is burning a backup copy of Baby Einstein just as I type this. They put to much crap on those dvd's anyways. It's nice to skip everything and get right to the movie which is exactly what my backups do. __________________ "Some people go their whole life wondering if they ever made a difference. Marines don’t have that problem." Bush made the Packers lose

01-13-2006, 07:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
DumberDrummer Cymru am byth Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,364 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	I don't like the DMCA anymore because of this. Where do they get off deciding that since they can't change fair use laws, they'll just make it paradoxically impossible to make fair use of your property? __________________ Living with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane _____________________________________________ ... and with those words so begins my lifetime of longing for the devil's warm embrace