Religion is why we don't have a clue

yustr · 12-31-2005, 07:12 PM

In another thread, our good friend bruiser posted an interesting article on the religous make up of the US compared to the rest of the world. Here's a quote:

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That's quite different from the world at large: Fifty-two percent of the world's population is non-Christian, compared to 4 percent in the United States; and one-third is Christian, compared to 83 percent in the United States.

Could this be a reason why we don't understand a lot of the world?

**40sondacurb** · 12-31-2005, 07:20 PM

of course, the only thing those heathens understand is brute force, then conversion, and then maybe you can begin to get through to a few of em.

~~GiancarloC~~ · 12-31-2005, 07:20 PM

Well the United States has been at the forefront of medical, technological and scientific achievement. Yes a majority are christian, but a majority are non-practicing and most americans are secularists. This nation for the most part has drifted away from the staunch religionism (funny word I know) that was apparent in the 1950s. This nation has become more and more secular, with prayer being thrown out of schools and intelligent design BEING REJECTED! But that's another topic.

**bruiser** · 12-31-2005, 07:42 PM

This may come as a surprise, but Christianity is the world's largest religion. Is it practiced the same by everyone everywhere? Obviously not, as there are so many denominations. However, it appears that every major religion has more than on denomination.

Edit, link: www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

~~GiancarloC~~ · 12-31-2005, 08:09 PM

In Spain, 97-99% of Spain is catholic. But the nation is far more socially open then the US, allowing gay marriage and adoption for same sex couples. There is a difference between practicing and non-practicing, and moderate and crazed fundamentalist.

bry623 · 01-02-2006, 08:04 AM

I smell interdict!

yustr · 01-02-2006, 08:14 PM

Take a step back: if you overlay regional religions and where we've fought mostl of the wars for the last 20 years a trend emerges that "Christian" countries are at war with non-Christians. Curious don't you think?

And where are the billion's of Chinese in that chart? Seems off to me but I'm no expert and it's too late to do any research tonight... Also, when was that data collected? My suspicion is that the non-Christian populations are growing at vastly faster rates than Christians. So if it's more than a couple of years old it's too out of date to be germaine.

**40sondacurb** · 01-02-2006, 08:24 PM

that's true, Islam was the fastest growing religion before crazy a** blew up the towers.

02PSD4ME · 01-04-2006, 08:36 AM

Religion has caused more deaths, since the beginning of time that anything else.

bry623 · 01-04-2006, 08:42 AM

People's perversions of religion has caused more death's than anything. My religion has only caused one death.

Chevy · 01-04-2006, 10:38 PM

My take - organized religion is the sourge of mankind. It exists only because it was a way for the peasantry to exert some kind of control over the ruling classes by threatening their very soul.

I feel that organized religion does more harm than good. It turns people into sheep - always waiting for some over-officious figure to tell you what to do and when instead of figuring it out yourself.

**crazijoe** · 01-05-2006, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy

I feel that organized religion does more harm than good. It turns people into sheep - always waiting for some over-officious figure to tell you what to do and when instead of figuring it out yourself.

Hmm... sounds like our government.

bry623 · 01-05-2006, 05:02 AM

BAAAAA!!!

If you have a good shepherd, then the sheep are safe, happy, and healthy. If the shepherd manipulates things, then the sheep will be used and the other animals need to be wary.

**crazijoe** · 01-05-2006, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bry623

BAAAAA!!!

If you have a good shepherd, then the sheep are safe, happy, and healthy. If the shepherd manipulates things, then the sheep will be used and the other animals need to be wary.

Still sounds like our government.

**40sondacurb** · 01-05-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bry623

BAAAAA!!!

If you have a good shepherd, then the sheep are safe, happy, and healthy. If the shepherd manipulates things, then the sheep will be used and the other animals need to be wary.

I agree. Religion is helpful, until it's corrupted by power.

bry623 · 01-05-2006, 12:47 PM

Did you guys see that? 40's and I agree on something!!!!!

And Joe is right about it being eerily similar to the government.

**DumberDrummer** · 01-05-2006, 05:00 PM

I wonder what exactly is meant by organized religion...

Catholic Church, a la the Pope sort of thing, or just any group of people believing the same thing gathering together?

cdfreelancer · 01-13-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 40sondacurb

that's true, Islam was the fastest growing religion before crazy a** blew up the towers.

How the North tower was demolished by pre-planted demolition charges and why the official 911 story is a lie

Sorry, didn't want to wander too far off the subject but...

12-31-2005, 07:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,723 OS: xp	of course, the only thing those heathens understand is brute force, then conversion, and then maybe you can begin to get through to a few of em. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush

12-31-2005, 07:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
~~GiancarloC~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: LoS aNgElEs Posts: 315 OS: Win2000Pro	Well the United States has been at the forefront of medical, technological and scientific achievement. Yes a majority are christian, but a majority are non-practicing and most americans are secularists. This nation for the most part has drifted away from the staunch religionism (funny word I know) that was apparent in the 1950s. This nation has become more and more secular, with prayer being thrown out of schools and intelligent design BEING REJECTED! But that's another topic. Last edited by GiancarloC : 12-31-2005 at 07:21 PM.

12-31-2005, 07:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
bruiser TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,612 OS: xp	This may come as a surprise, but Christianity is the world's largest religion. Is it practiced the same by everyone everywhere? Obviously not, as there are so many denominations. However, it appears that every major religion has more than on denomination. Edit, link: www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html Last edited by bruiser : 12-31-2005 at 07:45 PM.

01-02-2006, 08:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,465 OS: winxp pro sp2	I smell interdict! __________________ Scarlet and Gray in L.A. 9/13/08

01-02-2006, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore/California Desert Posts: 4,755 OS: PCLinuxOS, XP Pro My System	Take a step back: if you overlay regional religions and where we've fought mostl of the wars for the last 20 years a trend emerges that "Christian" countries are at war with non-Christians. Curious don't you think? And where are the billion's of Chinese in that chart? Seems off to me but I'm no expert and it's too late to do any research tonight... Also, when was that data collected? My suspicion is that the non-Christian populations are growing at vastly faster rates than Christians. So if it's more than a couple of years old it's too out of date to be germaine. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

12-31-2005, 08:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~GiancarloC~~ Register user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: LoS aNgElEs Posts: 315 OS: Win2000Pro	In Spain, 97-99% of Spain is catholic. But the nation is far more socially open then the US, allowing gay marriage and adoption for same sex couples. There is a difference between practicing and non-practicing, and moderate and crazed fundamentalist.

01-02-2006, 08:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,723 OS: xp	that's true, Islam was the fastest growing religion before crazy a** blew up the towers. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush

01-04-2006, 08:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
02PSD4ME Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4 OS: W2K	Religion has caused more deaths, since the beginning of time that anything else.

01-04-2006, 08:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,465 OS: winxp pro sp2	People's perversions of religion has caused more death's than anything. My religion has only caused one death. __________________ Scarlet and Gray in L.A. 9/13/08

01-04-2006, 10:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chevy Semi-Retired Manager, Microsoft Support Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Notlob Posts: 5,162 OS: Vista Ultimate My System	My take - organized religion is the sourge of mankind. It exists only because it was a way for the peasantry to exert some kind of control over the ruling classes by threatening their very soul. I feel that organized religion does more harm than good. It turns people into sheep - always waiting for some over-officious figure to tell you what to do and when instead of figuring it out yourself. __________________ “My philosophy, like color television, is all there in black and white” -M. Python

01-05-2006, 05:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,465 OS: winxp pro sp2	BAAAAA!!! If you have a good shepherd, then the sheep are safe, happy, and healthy. If the shepherd manipulates things, then the sheep will be used and the other animals need to be wary. __________________ Scarlet and Gray in L.A. 9/13/08

01-05-2006, 12:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,465 OS: winxp pro sp2	Did you guys see that? 40's and I agree on something!!!!! And Joe is right about it being eerily similar to the government. __________________ Scarlet and Gray in L.A. 9/13/08

01-05-2006, 05:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
DumberDrummer Cymru am byth Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,364 OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 My System	I wonder what exactly is meant by organized religion... Catholic Church, a la the Pope sort of thing, or just any group of people believing the same thing gathering together? __________________ Living with Louie dog's the only way to stay sane _____________________________________________ ... and with those words so begins my lifetime of longing for the devil's warm embrace