Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union'

mimo2005 · 03-18-2008, 03:20 PM

Barack Obama speaks in Philadelphia, PA at Constitution Center, on matters not just of race and recent remarks but of the fundamental path by which America can work together to pursue a better future.

Video:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU

More info with CBSNEWS:

Obama's Speech Was Brilliant, But ...
Speech On Race Struck The Right Tone But May Not Please All
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3948674.shtml

People were crying, cheering. I've never witnessed anything as moving in my life.

**40sondacurb** · 03-18-2008, 05:20 PM

Makes Romney's Mormon speech sound like it was written by the Selma Alabama Toastmasters Club.

mimo2005 · 03-18-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 40sondacurb

Makes Romney's Mormon speech sound like it was written by the Selma Alabama Toastmasters Club.

I hope he can survive the constant smear jobs between now and November.

Tumbleweed36 · 03-18-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mimo2005

I hope he can survive the constant smear jobs between now and November.

IMHO, I think the Clinton group will do their best to make sure (behind the scenes by other campaign members) that he is tied directly to this so-called minister. The smear campaign is on, because Hillary thinks she is ENTITLED.

bry623 · 03-19-2008, 06:51 AM

If I were in church and my minister preached hate and taught anger and I "thought it was wrong" (why did he not come out against it sooner SPIN), I would walk out and never come back.

mimo2005 · 03-19-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bry623

If I were in church and my minister preached hate and taught anger and I "thought it was wrong" (why did he not come out against it sooner SPIN), I would walk out and never come back.

You kidding !
Have you ever read what those wacky right wing evangelists preaching for years ??

He's running to be commander in chief, not preacher in chief.Period.

I don't blame this black church ,created during slavery time.
Who was racist for decades , who suffered for decades?

Pretend you are black for 5 minutes , and you will cry a river.

mimo2005 · 03-19-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bry623

I would walk out and never come back.

So if i follow your logic, then all christians are pedophiles, if you connect he dots with their pastors.

bry623 · 03-19-2008, 01:26 PM

Yours is faulty. No Christian ever preaches pedophilia to the masses.

Good Try.

mimo2005 · 03-19-2008, 03:23 PM

Well , i never blamed the christians for having a high concentrations of pedophiles Pastors/priests , It never occured to me to link innocents christians to be the same as their priests .Never.

**EnglishPaul** · 03-19-2008, 04:52 PM

Bry would you really walk out of your church if your pastor gave a message you didn't agree with?
It is possible for someone to be wrong on just one point, or have coloured judgement (interesting pun, don't you think?). You would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
In fact it is when you stop seeing an individual as coloured by personal issues that you see them as absolute. I would much rather vote for someone who discerned the bias in people but listened for any gems they may have.

yustr · 03-19-2008, 05:11 PM

This is why I don't let someone tell me what or how to think. It may make you feel comfortable knowing you're surrounded by like thinking folks but there's always that one question where you feel slightly differently than does the guy in the next pew. At that point you either agree to disagree - and you're whole belief system falls apart - or you disagree and you move to another church. Lather, rinse, repeat.

03-18-2008, 03:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10,734 OS: xp	Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' Barack Obama speaks in Philadelphia, PA at Constitution Center, on matters not just of race and recent remarks but of the fundamental path by which America can work together to pursue a better future. Video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU More info with CBSNEWS: Obama's Speech Was Brilliant, But ... Speech On Race Struck The Right Tone But May Not Please All http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3948674.shtml People were crying, cheering. I've never witnessed anything as moving in my life. __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

03-18-2008, 05:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,764 OS: xp	Re: Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' Makes Romney's Mormon speech sound like it was written by the Selma Alabama Toastmasters Club. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush Last edited by 40sondacurb : 03-18-2008 at 05:21 PM.

03-19-2008, 06:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,551 OS: winxp pro sp2	Re: Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' If I were in church and my minister preached hate and taught anger and I "thought it was wrong" (why did he not come out against it sooner SPIN), I would walk out and never come back. __________________ When you fear Sarah, you attack her and try destroy her

03-19-2008, 01:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,551 OS: winxp pro sp2	Re: Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' Yours is faulty. No Christian ever preaches pedophilia to the masses. Good Try. __________________ When you fear Sarah, you attack her and try destroy her

03-19-2008, 03:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10,734 OS: xp	Re: Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' Well , i never blamed the christians for having a high concentrations of pedophiles Pastors/priests , It never occured to me to link innocents christians to be the same as their priests .Never. __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

03-19-2008, 04:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
EnglishPaul Still no avatar Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sheffield Posts: 989 OS: XP SP2	Re: Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' Bry would you really walk out of your church if your pastor gave a message you didn't agree with? It is possible for someone to be wrong on just one point, or have coloured judgement (interesting pun, don't you think?). You would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. In fact it is when you stop seeing an individual as coloured by personal issues that you see them as absolute. I would much rather vote for someone who discerned the bias in people but listened for any gems they may have.

03-19-2008, 05:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore/California Desert Posts: 4,855 OS: PCLinuxOS, XP Pro My System	Re: Todays Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' This is why I don't let someone tell me what or how to think. It may make you feel comfortable knowing you're surrounded by like thinking folks but there's always that one question where you feel slightly differently than does the guy in the next pew. At that point you either agree to disagree - and you're whole belief system falls apart - or you disagree and you move to another church. Lather, rinse, repeat. __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas