FBI privacy violations confirmed

mikeber · 03-05-2008, 05:57 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080306/..._pe/senate_fbi
Maybe not much damage was done, but it confirms again something about the nature of these organizations: they are obsessed with collecting data. Any data, all the time, even totally useless info (although I suspect that in their minds there is no such thing as useless info).
Therefore the president's argument that they will only collect relevant info to fighting terror, has no merit. These spying organizations have no sense of self censorship and will not stop at red light.

mimo2005 · 03-05-2008, 07:22 PM

Fearmongering is the best they can do , scare people in order to steal their rights and freedom.
But i think that strategy won't work anymore .

**sobeit** · 03-06-2008, 11:46 AM

This was all done with bush blessings. as he said a few years ago, if you dont have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

The bad thing is, so many people dont care, because so many people are now so afraid of terrorist they are willing to let the fbi, homeland security and others to spy even if it results in the violation of the law. They want that perception of protection.

~~Wozer~~ · 03-06-2008, 02:46 PM

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ed-access.html

yustr · 03-06-2008, 06:26 PM

These are dark times indeed.

I truly beleive that we are witness to the downfall of the American experience. We'll never again rise to the level we once attained or think we've currently acheived.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

mimo2005 · 03-06-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wozer

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ed-access.html

Verizon wireless.

03-05-2008, 05:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
mikeber Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 53 OS: Win XP	FBI privacy violations confirmed http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080306/..._pe/senate_fbi Maybe not much damage was done, but it confirms again something about the nature of these organizations: they are obsessed with collecting data. Any data, all the time, even totally useless info (although I suspect that in their minds there is no such thing as useless info). Therefore the president's argument that they will only collect relevant info to fighting terror, has no merit. These spying organizations have no sense of self censorship and will not stop at red light.

03-05-2008, 07:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
mimo2005 Manager, The Relaxation Room/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 10,771 OS: xp	Re: FBI privacy violations confirmed Fearmongering is the best they can do , scare people in order to steal their rights and freedom. But i think that strategy won't work anymore . __________________ TSF has outgrown its server, again. Please help "Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi sed saepe cadendo"

03-06-2008, 11:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 5,410 OS: windows/linux	Re: FBI privacy violations confirmed This was all done with bush blessings. as he said a few years ago, if you dont have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. The bad thing is, so many people dont care, because so many people are now so afraid of terrorist they are willing to let the fbi, homeland security and others to spy even if it results in the violation of the law. They want that perception of protection. __________________ Do not feed the trolls.

03-06-2008, 02:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
~~Wozer~~ Troubled Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,038 OS: 2kpro/XP pro/MCE	Re: FBI privacy violations confirmed http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ed-access.html

03-06-2008, 06:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore/California Desert Posts: 4,876 OS: PCLinuxOS, XP Pro My System	Re: FBI privacy violations confirmed These are dark times indeed. I truly beleive that we are witness to the downfall of the American experience. We'll never again rise to the level we once attained or think we've currently acheived. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas