Fred Thompson

bry623 · 01-23-2008, 08:07 AM

Well, from the get go, I have been a backer of Fred Thompson. I gave him some of my hard earned U.S. dollars and even distributed the petition to get him on Ohio's ballot.

Now he has dropped out of the race. As many of you know, I am one of those responsible for re-electing Bush (no comments on Bush please), so I kind of consider myself one of those right wingers. The question is, now whom do I support?

Let's start off by saying that Hilary or B. Hussein will probably win their party's nomination. In either case, I would vote against them. That being said, which republican is most deserving of my support? I like how Romney was able to work with the libs in Massachusetts, but I am not sure if I can look past Mormonism. If it were 2002, Giullani would be a great guy, but how far can he ride the wave of post 9/11? I am not sure if I can look past some of his views on the issues. McCain is OK, but as "the maverick republican, the base (people like me) may not go for him. Huckabee espouses beliefs held by the evangelicals, but his record in Arkansas does not look like a conservative governor.

This would apparently make me one of the "undecideds". However, I always say that anyone who says they are undecided on an issue or candidate, is too ignorant to make an informed decision. That being said, I think I would have to pull for John McCain. I can look past his amnesty stands (IMHO, as long as illegals are productive they should get some considerations) and I think his maverick stance makes him almost untouchable by the MSM. He also could get alot of independents and conservative democrats, which currently makes him the most electable republican out there. This would make him my only check against a liberal congress that is going to tax us to death.

**simpswr** · 01-23-2008, 08:35 AM

John is my man . . but he does not stand a chance in the elections . . The Dems could run a drug using lapdancer, on probation for child molestation and win . . . this administration has doomed the Republicans for a decade or more.

**sobeit** · 01-23-2008, 08:54 AM

I am not surprised that Thompson got out of the race. IMO, he was in it for the Vice President slot anyway. No way he could have won.

As far as John McCain, I agree with Chuck Norris.

**oddball2910** · 01-23-2008, 11:53 AM

McCain seems to be the only republican that stands much of a chance in the general election against the Democrats. Giuliani ignored New Hampshire and Iowa to focus on Florida, and he still doesn't have a very strong showing in Florida, possibly not even enough to win the state.

Romney being a Mormon will undoubtedly hurt him to the point of his being unelectable. Huckabee seems to be an alright candidate, and is a decent public speaker with excellent one liners, even in debates, but it doesn't seem as if he has much to actually offer if he were to win the nomination.

I am behind McCain out of the remaining GOP candidates.

**-=Rousseau=-** · 01-23-2008, 02:06 PM

This election, sad to say, looks very bad for republicans... Hillary Clinton, however it may be, seems to have support... That I do not understand. She is the most obvious socialist in government, her husband screwed around in office (Do we want him in their again? Even as "first man"?), and she'll raise taxes without a doubt.

Who likes paying taxes? Honestly, now. Who thinks that the government is not already involved enough in our lives? We are owed something by the government, therefore we pay higher taxes for it?!?!?

If Republicans want to have a chance at this election, they will have to go with the most anti-stereotypical republican they can. As far away from Bush as possible. They'll practically have to nominate a quasi-Democrat... Thompson's dropping out of the race doesn't really affect matters much, as he would have never been elected.

Thankfully there are checks and balances, so whatever effects that Shrillary will have will be mitigated by ...the less liberal democrats in congress and the senate.... crap.

I'm all for nominating the most electable Republican candidate, which I'd have to agree is McCain, but even then Obama/Hillary already is guaranteed in such a competition the votes of: feminists, change-ists (people who are dumb enough to just want change - the main slogan for Obama and Hillary), African Americans, Hispanics, low income people, gays, lesbians, transgenders, bisexuals.

Who can the Republicans count on other than the religious vote, wall street, and a smattering of the middle class?

**40sondacurb** · 01-23-2008, 02:43 PM

I'm voting for Mccain in the primary, and if Hillary wins I might go for him in the general election (little worried about any more Justices going to terminal dreamland).

He's probably smarter than Hukabee

He has the sense to know you can't run the country like business the way Romney thinks it ought to be done.

And Giuliani... well I just don't like him.

RedScott · 01-23-2008, 07:14 PM

The whole reason the Republicans have no shot in this election is the war, and McCain is as pro-war (stay in Iraq for a hundred years, etc) as they get.

Not that Hilary isn't pro-war as well, cause she is, but she's a democrat and the general public is too stupid to think it though. Right now, Republicans=war, Democrats=anti-war.

So, looks like it'll be another 8 years of the Bush/Clinton dynasty. g-d bless democracies!

yustr · 01-23-2008, 07:16 PM

From this life long liberal:

**-=Rousseau=-** · 01-25-2008, 02:11 PM

Bush/Clinton dynasty? How are they alike? Hillary isn't that pro-war... One of the things that worries me about her is her policy on socialism... Redistribution of wealth seems a lot like fancy terms for stealing to me. How is it any different if I had the government go and take my neighbor's money away from him and give it to me, using rhetoric of "inequality" and "injustice"? Just in scale... You earn it, you get it. You don't, well you don't.

**sobeit** · 01-26-2008, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedScott

So, looks like it'll be another 8 years of the Bush/Clinton dynasty. g-d bless democracies!

I sure hope not...

**40sondacurb** · 01-26-2008, 08:53 PM

You know on second thought Mccain will keep us sinking money into Iraq for the next 20 years, vote for Husseni.

~~Nik00117~~ · 01-27-2008, 02:25 PM

Yall know regradless of the president we are in iraq for the next 20 anyhow?

**40sondacurb** · 01-27-2008, 05:06 PM

Well if one cuts the expense of our role by 50% and another by only 10% or not at all then you've trimmed more fat than Mccain could ever trim trying to wrestle with congress. So from a fiscal stand point dare I say a democrat may save us some dough at the macro level.

**simpswr** · 01-27-2008, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik00117

Yall know regradless of the president we are in iraq for the next 20 anyhow?

Which, of course, is better than the other way around

01-23-2008, 08:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
bry623 Manager, The Conversation Pit/Analyst, Security Team Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NW Territory circa 1787 Posts: 10,621 OS: winxp pro sp2	Fred Thompson Well, from the get go, I have been a backer of Fred Thompson. I gave him some of my hard earned U.S. dollars and even distributed the petition to get him on Ohio's ballot. Now he has dropped out of the race. As many of you know, I am one of those responsible for re-electing Bush (no comments on Bush please), so I kind of consider myself one of those right wingers. The question is, now whom do I support? Let's start off by saying that Hilary or B. Hussein will probably win their party's nomination. In either case, I would vote against them. That being said, which republican is most deserving of my support? I like how Romney was able to work with the libs in Massachusetts, but I am not sure if I can look past Mormonism. If it were 2002, Giullani would be a great guy, but how far can he ride the wave of post 9/11? I am not sure if I can look past some of his views on the issues. McCain is OK, but as "the maverick republican, the base (people like me) may not go for him. Huckabee espouses beliefs held by the evangelicals, but his record in Arkansas does not look like a conservative governor. This would apparently make me one of the "undecideds". However, I always say that anyone who says they are undecided on an issue or candidate, is too ignorant to make an informed decision. That being said, I think I would have to pull for John McCain. I can look past his amnesty stands (IMHO, as long as illegals are productive they should get some considerations) and I think his maverick stance makes him almost untouchable by the MSM. He also could get alot of independents and conservative democrats, which currently makes him the most electable republican out there. This would make him my only check against a liberal congress that is going to tax us to death. __________________ "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem." -Ronald Reagan

01-23-2008, 08:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
simpswr Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,086 OS: XP, Vista	Re: Fred Thompson John is my man . . but he does not stand a chance in the elections . . The Dems could run a drug using lapdancer, on probation for child molestation and win . . . this administration has doomed the Republicans for a decade or more. __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Spyware Cleaning \| How to Post a Screen shot \| PC running slow]

01-23-2008, 08:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
sobeit TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NEAR Posts: 5,847 OS: windows/linux	Re: Fred Thompson I am not surprised that Thompson got out of the race. IMO, he was in it for the Vice President slot anyway. No way he could have won. As far as John McCain, I agree with Chuck Norris. __________________ Do not feed the trolls.

01-23-2008, 11:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
oddball2910 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,085 OS: WinXP SP2 My System	Re: Fred Thompson McCain seems to be the only republican that stands much of a chance in the general election against the Democrats. Giuliani ignored New Hampshire and Iowa to focus on Florida, and he still doesn't have a very strong showing in Florida, possibly not even enough to win the state. Romney being a Mormon will undoubtedly hurt him to the point of his being unelectable. Huckabee seems to be an alright candidate, and is a decent public speaker with excellent one liners, even in debates, but it doesn't seem as if he has much to actually offer if he were to win the nomination. I am behind McCain out of the remaining GOP candidates. __________________

01-23-2008, 02:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
-=Rousseau=- Where Was I? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 714 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium My System	Re: Fred Thompson This election, sad to say, looks very bad for republicans... Hillary Clinton, however it may be, seems to have support... That I do not understand. She is the most obvious socialist in government, her husband screwed around in office (Do we want him in their again? Even as "first man"?), and she'll raise taxes without a doubt. Who likes paying taxes? Honestly, now. Who thinks that the government is not already involved enough in our lives? We are owed something by the government, therefore we pay higher taxes for it?!?!? If Republicans want to have a chance at this election, they will have to go with the most anti-stereotypical republican they can. As far away from Bush as possible. They'll practically have to nominate a quasi-Democrat... Thompson's dropping out of the race doesn't really affect matters much, as he would have never been elected. Thankfully there are checks and balances, so whatever effects that Shrillary will have will be mitigated by ...the less liberal democrats in congress and the senate.... crap. I'm all for nominating the most electable Republican candidate, which I'd have to agree is McCain, but even then Obama/Hillary already is guaranteed in such a competition the votes of: feminists, change-ists (people who are dumb enough to just want change - the main slogan for Obama and Hillary), African Americans, Hispanics, low income people, gays, lesbians, transgenders, bisexuals. Who can the Republicans count on other than the religious vote, wall street, and a smattering of the middle class? Last edited by -=Rousseau=- : 01-23-2008 at 02:13 PM.

01-23-2008, 02:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,804 OS: xp	Re: Fred Thompson I'm voting for Mccain in the primary, and if Hillary wins I might go for him in the general election (little worried about any more Justices going to terminal dreamland). He's probably smarter than Hukabee He has the sense to know you can't run the country like business the way Romney thinks it ought to be done. And Giuliani... well I just don't like him. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush Last edited by 40sondacurb : 01-23-2008 at 02:45 PM.

01-23-2008, 07:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
RedScott Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 344 OS: Windows XP	Re: Fred Thompson The whole reason the Republicans have no shot in this election is the war, and McCain is as pro-war (stay in Iraq for a hundred years, etc) as they get. Not that Hilary isn't pro-war as well, cause she is, but she's a democrat and the general public is too stupid to think it though. Right now, Republicans=war, Democrats=anti-war. So, looks like it'll be another 8 years of the Bush/Clinton dynasty. g-d bless democracies!

01-23-2008, 07:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
yustr Asst. Manager, The Conversation Pit Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Connecticut shore Posts: 4,993 OS: XP Pro My System	Re: Fred Thompson From this life long liberal: __________________ I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said. J. McMurtry In Vino Veritas

01-25-2008, 02:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
-=Rousseau=- Where Was I? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 714 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium My System	Re: Fred Thompson Bush/Clinton dynasty? How are they alike? Hillary isn't that pro-war... One of the things that worries me about her is her policy on socialism... Redistribution of wealth seems a lot like fancy terms for stealing to me. How is it any different if I had the government go and take my neighbor's money away from him and give it to me, using rhetoric of "inequality" and "injustice"? Just in scale... You earn it, you get it. You don't, well you don't.

01-26-2008, 08:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,804 OS: xp	Re: Fred Thompson You know on second thought Mccain will keep us sinking money into Iraq for the next 20 years, vote for Husseni. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush

01-27-2008, 02:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
~~Nik00117~~ Troubled Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 1,572 OS: XP Pro, Vista Ulimate My System	Re: Fred Thompson Yall know regradless of the president we are in iraq for the next 20 anyhow?

01-27-2008, 05:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
40sondacurb #64 & #36 BACKBONE Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,804 OS: xp	Re: Fred Thompson Well if one cuts the expense of our role by 50% and another by only 10% or not at all then you've trimmed more fat than Mccain could ever trim trying to wrestle with congress. So from a fiscal stand point dare I say a democrat may save us some dough at the macro level. __________________ Donate to keep the forum running "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" -George W. Bush Last edited by 40sondacurb : 01-27-2008 at 05:08 PM.