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**speedster123** · 07-11-2007, 01:31 PM

Advice to New Visitors

Sometimes words are said on the keyboard, that wouldn't be spoken face to face.
If you are angry or upset with a poster or fellow staff member, perhaps walk away from the computer for an hour, then rethink your response.
Obviously, once posted, theres usually no turning back.
Many times words are seen differently by different eyes, and what seems abrupt to the recipient, was not intended by the author.
Feelings are important, and can be hurt unintentionally.
My 2 cents

JohnthePilot · 07-11-2007, 01:36 PM

Very good advice.

**kinbard** · 07-11-2007, 01:36 PM

True words.

**Ben** · 07-11-2007, 02:19 PM

Totally agree, maybe this thread should be stickied

**kinbard** · 07-11-2007, 02:37 PM

Yeah. I don't see some of the people that were here when I first joined this forum. Kindof a loss...

**Done_Fishin** · 07-11-2007, 03:08 PM

one should always remember that no matter how much one tries there is always the possibility that the message written in fun will be read by someone who has just had the worst row ever with their loved one or Boss .. and lost .. which makes it really difficult for the upset and angry to tune in with what was in the mind of the writer ..
we all make mistakes but have to try harder not to send those mistakes on to someone else by accident .. it also works the other way too .. so we must take a big breather .. and ask whether the action is how we read it or how we think it was supposed to read ..

A very good point and well worth bringing to everyone's attention .. and don't forget that even the writer might be wrongly influenced because he /she believes something has been said or done .. that hasn't .. we are none of us infallible

**Go The Power** · 07-11-2007, 11:40 PM

Yes very well said

**Horse** · 07-12-2007, 05:01 AM

I must agree with the aforementioned. Although we use smilies with our written text replies, they cannot replace the spoken word and visual medium through which we communicate. The receiver is not able to make judgments on how the speaker looks or hear the tone of their voice. This makes us all as keyboard communicators, prone to potential misunderstandings and lead us act accordingly often incorrectly. A lot of unnecessary angst can be created.

This was a good time for a thread like this Speedster - thank you.

**Kalim** · 07-14-2007, 10:19 AM

I would agree to that.

But then again, the biggest influenced are those who practically live off online - they need to get out and socialize and learn the real social communicating skills, which'll help them stick to many of the rules and work out what is happening online better. They will understand to accept and understand different views better. I would also say AMEN to the red in Done_Fishin's signature, which ties in nicely with what I'm saying.

You come across many who are just too sunk into the computer monitors, like it really is a life and death situation, where it isn't. It's just a monitor with communicative medium - you're still people, and you give yourself a good online label or otherwise. Be genuine and nice to others, no high handedness you never know who the other person is and they could do exactly what you do online, and just try to treat all equal, and you'll very rarely set things off the marker. I highly prefer working together, covering for each other, we all make mistakes, than as some unchalant single individual.

**jen56** · 07-14-2007, 08:41 PM

Bruce, Alex, John, and all the rest I totally agree here.
Harsh words are never taken lightly.

**Jack.Sparrow** · 07-14-2007, 10:07 PM

. Well done. I agree 110%

**mattlock** · 07-14-2007, 10:53 PM

Stellar thread Speed, and great replies by all. There seems to be alot of angst on the site of late and , as Horse said, this thread comes at a very good time.

Zazula · 07-15-2007, 07:52 PM

I fully agree with everything aforesaid, and I echo everyone's kudos to speedster for his initiative to bring this up. Kalim especially introduced yet another spot-on aspect of the issue; and, if we were to calculate the frequency of misunderstandings in our real-life situations, where we 'know' the people we deal with and we also see them face-to-face and we have the extra of watching their body language etc, we would easily realise that failures to correctly/fully/accurately perceive the meaning or intentions of another person's words or actions are way too often. Now introduce the additional apprehension-adversity of digital communication and the hardcore onliners' lack of maintaining an essential contact with reality, and here ya go...

Maybe Drew summed it all up (with stark political incorrectness, I have to admit

), when he said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew1369

Arguing on the internet is like winning a race in the special olympics... in the end you are still retarded.

07-11-2007, 01:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York-Long Island Posts: 5,228 OS: xp pro SP3	Please Read Advice to New Visitors Sometimes words are said on the keyboard, that wouldn't be spoken face to face. If you are angry or upset with a poster or fellow staff member, perhaps walk away from the computer for an hour, then rethink your response. Obviously, once posted, theres usually no turning back. Many times words are seen differently by different eyes, and what seems abrupt to the recipient, was not intended by the author. Feelings are important, and can be hurt unintentionally. My 2 cents __________________

07-11-2007, 01:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
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07-11-2007, 01:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
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07-11-2007, 02:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
kinbard TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 3,459 OS: Experimenter	Re: Please Read Yeah. I don't see some of the people that were here when I first joined this forum. Kindof a loss... __________________ Half viking, half pirate, stronger than both XP Repair Malware Removal Vista Repair Downgrade Vista

07-11-2007, 03:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,527 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	Re: Please Read one should always remember that no matter how much one tries there is always the possibility that the message written in fun will be read by someone who has just had the worst row ever with their loved one or Boss .. and lost .. which makes it really difficult for the upset and angry to tune in with what was in the mind of the writer .. we all make mistakes but have to try harder not to send those mistakes on to someone else by accident .. it also works the other way too .. so we must take a big breather .. and ask whether the action is how we read it or how we think it was supposed to read .. A very good point and well worth bringing to everyone's attention .. and don't forget that even the writer might be wrongly influenced because he /she believes something has been said or done .. that hasn't .. we are none of us infallible __________________ . . I'm not old!! I'm age impaired .. D_F I DON'T PLAY GAMES How to mark your thread as solved HDD DIAG UTILS TSF's Photographer's Corner

07-11-2007, 11:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Go The Power Moderator, Microsoft Support Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 11,003 OS: Windows XP Home SP2 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Please Read Yes very well said __________________

07-12-2007, 05:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
Horse General Manager (Administrator) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Durban South Africa Posts: 4,297 OS: WIN XP PRO My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Please Read I must agree with the aforementioned. Although we use smilies with our written text replies, they cannot replace the spoken word and visual medium through which we communicate. The receiver is not able to make judgments on how the speaker looks or hear the tone of their voice. This makes us all as keyboard communicators, prone to potential misunderstandings and lead us act accordingly often incorrectly. A lot of unnecessary angst can be created. This was a good time for a thread like this Speedster - thank you. __________________ Know where you're going in life. You may already be there

07-14-2007, 10:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,642 OS: Many	I would agree to that. But then again, the biggest influenced are those who practically live off online - they need to get out and socialize and learn the real social communicating skills, which'll help them stick to many of the rules and work out what is happening online better. They will understand to accept and understand different views better. I would also say AMEN to the red in Done_Fishin's signature, which ties in nicely with what I'm saying. You come across many who are just too sunk into the computer monitors, like it really is a life and death situation, where it isn't. It's just a monitor with communicative medium - you're still people, and you give yourself a good online label or otherwise. Be genuine and nice to others, no high handedness you never know who the other person is and they could do exactly what you do online, and just try to treat all equal, and you'll very rarely set things off the marker. I highly prefer working together, covering for each other, we all make mistakes, than as some unchalant single individual.

07-14-2007, 08:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
jen56 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Elizabeth. South Australia. Australia Posts: 2,649 OS: XP My System	Re: Please Read Bruce, Alex, John, and all the rest I totally agree here. Harsh words are never taken lightly. __________________ GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY!!! Regards Jen

07-14-2007, 10:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
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07-14-2007, 10:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
mattlock Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,183 OS: XP SP2, Win 7 Beta, Win 7 RC My System	Re: Please Read Stellar thread Speed, and great replies by all. There seems to be alot of angst on the site of late and , as Horse said, this thread comes at a very good time. __________________ Matt Everest-Thermal Paste Instruction-Power Supply Info-Sensorview PSU Calculator-Speedfan-Bench Test Help TSF Fight Disease. It's Free!