Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! - Page 3

Texas rose · 01-01-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChooks

A hearty well done to you Texas

I suggest you cut enough wood to last a while - that way you will be OK for a good while

Being serious for just a moment - how about leaving a couple of gallons of proper 2 stroke fuel with the saw when you return it - at least that way its "mechanically challenged owner" may put it on its correct diet - so when you need to borrow it again - you wont have to do a complete overhaul 1st

Well done again and we were all pleased to help where we could

Hello MR Chooks, happy new year to you and thanks for your kind words; I don't think the owner will ever use the saw up in this neck of the woods again, as he had finished with the 'woody' bits of his house refurbishment some 4 years ago.
If I were to leave some fuel mix it would probably go stale before he ever had cause to use it again.
He only ever had 2 trees that needed felling, and I've already attended to them.
The wife would not let me use the chainsaw today (still a couple of thick branches to cut up) as she thought new years day should be a 'quiet time'. I've been using a hand operated pruning saw to keep her happy...but it dont arf take a lot of hard graft to cut a few logs.

Tr

MrChooks · 01-01-2009, 12:02 PM

Hello Texas - good point on the fuel and a very happy New Year to you too.

Oooouuuch - on the hand cutting of the logs - only doubly so, when you know you could be using a power saw if only the noise police would let you

I have the same problem - am not allowed to mow the lawn before lunch time coz "she who must be obeyed " says it's not dignified to do so in the morning

but it's OK for me to do it in the afternoon, when the temperature is nudging the mid 30s C - sort of like mowing the grass inside a sauna by then

robertjinnes · 01-18-2009, 02:42 PM

TEX, a common cause of cylinder failure with scoring just happened to you. Bearing failure, one or both sides preventsthe crank shaft seals from not maintaining an airtight crankcase. Air is sucked in, the air fuel ratio goes lean and you overheat the cyliner quickly. 25:1 oil didn't cause it. Owner shouldn't find fault with you.

be honest, work with him and he should be happy you are honest and willing to do repairs.

bob the Treeman

Texas rose · 01-19-2009, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertjinnes

TEX, a common cause of cylinder failure with scoring just happened to you. Bearing failure, one or both sides preventsthe crank shaft seals from not maintaining an airtight crankcase. Air is sucked in, the air fuel ratio goes lean and you overheat the cyliner quickly. 25:1 oil didn't cause it. Owner shouldn't find fault with you.

be honest, work with him and he should be happy you are honest and willing to do repairs.

bob the Treeman

Thank you robertjinnes for your reply, the owner hasn't surfaced for about an 18 month period yet. When he does I will approach him over the saw - and other matters, but as his health is poor I may never see him again.

The repairs have been done and all is tickety boo at this time.

Texas rose.

Texas rose · 10-14-2009, 03:39 PM

UPDATE

Howdy folks, just to update the kind souls that helped me through this saw repair.

The owner finally turned up a few weeks ago, unbeknownst to me.

I had an occasion to 'borrow' his chain saw again and went to get it from his property, only to find it had gone.

Last weekend he reappeared so I asked him where the chainsaw had gone.

You'll never guess what he said!!

'I gave it away because I could never get it to run properly'

Texas rose

MrChooks · 10-14-2009, 03:47 PM

Texas - After all that I can't believe it. Rebuilb the engine, chasing up parts and all the time & effort to fix the thing - AAAaagggghhh

Maybe you should just give up on 2 stroke chain saws and buy your self a cheapie electric job!!!!!

Texas rose · 10-15-2009, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrChooks

Texas - After all that I can't believe it. Rebuilb the engine, chasing up parts and all the time & effort to fix the thing - AAAaagggghhh

Maybe you should just give up on 2 stroke chain saws and buy your self a cheapie electric job!!!!!

Hello Mr Chooks, how goes it?

I've got a tree which needs surgery this Winter, but I'm going to get my log merchant, who is also a tree surgeon, to have a look at it. This tree is overhanging my greenhouse so will have to be trimmed with precision. Knowing my luck...or lack of it, it would be sods law for the greenhouse to go 'tits up' if I were to try and lop the branches.

The electric chain saw seems like an excellent option for logging at home.

Tr

**pat mcgroin** · 10-15-2009, 04:52 AM

Sad news indeed.
As for the electric saw idea, I bought a Homelite 7 inch pole saw late last year and really ran it hard this year. The electric saws have come a long way. This one is on its 5th blade and still going strong.
If my 20 inch goes down I may get a electric just for the firewood.

MrChooks · 10-15-2009, 01:24 PM

These l'ill eletric chain saws have one great maintenance advantage - when / if they act up - all you need do is take hold of the power cord and swing the thing round and round over your head - once you get the rotatational speed high enough - simply let go of the cord and all maintenance is complete!!!!

All that needs be done then is go down to the store and buy anotherie!!

Like Pat says - I have had a l'il Makita 12 inch that I use for light trimming and it is too scared to play up!!!

'cause it know what will happen.

Texas - regarding the tree over the glass house - You are right - I know if it were me - the 1st branch would crash stright thru it

01-01-2009, 12:02 PM	#42 (permalink)
MrChooks Gearhead Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 613 OS: Windows XP Home SP 3 My System	Re: Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! Hello Texas - good point on the fuel and a very happy New Year to you too. Oooouuuch - on the hand cutting of the logs - only doubly so, when you know you could be using a power saw if only the noise police would let you I have the same problem - am not allowed to mow the lawn before lunch time coz "she who must be obeyed " says it's not dignified to do so in the morning but it's OK for me to do it in the afternoon, when the temperature is nudging the mid 30s C - sort of like mowing the grass inside a sauna by then

01-18-2009, 02:42 PM	#43 (permalink)
robertjinnes Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1 OS: XP pro	Re: Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! TEX, a common cause of cylinder failure with scoring just happened to you. Bearing failure, one or both sides preventsthe crank shaft seals from not maintaining an airtight crankcase. Air is sucked in, the air fuel ratio goes lean and you overheat the cyliner quickly. 25:1 oil didn't cause it. Owner shouldn't find fault with you. be honest, work with him and he should be happy you are honest and willing to do repairs. bob the Treeman

10-14-2009, 03:39 PM	#45 (permalink)
Texas rose Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 80 OS: Vista	Re: Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! UPDATE Howdy folks, just to update the kind souls that helped me through this saw repair. The owner finally turned up a few weeks ago, unbeknownst to me. I had an occasion to 'borrow' his chain saw again and went to get it from his property, only to find it had gone. Last weekend he reappeared so I asked him where the chainsaw had gone. You'll never guess what he said!! 'I gave it away because I could never get it to run properly' Texas rose

10-14-2009, 03:47 PM	#46 (permalink)
MrChooks Gearhead Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 613 OS: Windows XP Home SP 3 My System	Re: Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! Texas - After all that I can't believe it. Rebuilb the engine, chasing up parts and all the time & effort to fix the thing - AAAaagggghhh Maybe you should just give up on 2 stroke chain saws and buy your self a cheapie electric job!!!!!

10-15-2009, 04:52 AM	#48 (permalink)
pat mcgroin TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toledo Oh. Posts: 617 OS: XP Professional SP2 Vista Ultimate SP2	Re: Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! Sad news indeed. As for the electric saw idea, I bought a Homelite 7 inch pole saw late last year and really ran it hard this year. The electric saws have come a long way. This one is on its 5th blade and still going strong. If my 20 inch goes down I may get a electric just for the firewood.

10-15-2009, 01:24 PM	#49 (permalink)
MrChooks Gearhead Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 613 OS: Windows XP Home SP 3 My System	Re: Stihl 029 chainsaw tries to start but wont run! These l'ill eletric chain saws have one great maintenance advantage - when / if they act up - all you need do is take hold of the power cord and swing the thing round and round over your head - once you get the rotatational speed high enough - simply let go of the cord and all maintenance is complete!!!! All that needs be done then is go down to the store and buy anotherie!! Like Pat says - I have had a l'il Makita 12 inch that I use for light trimming and it is too scared to play up!!! 'cause it know what will happen. Texas - regarding the tree over the glass house - You are right - I know if it were me - the 1st branch would crash stright thru it