Four way Flashers only Flash two

Nexxtech · 09-30-2009, 03:13 PM

Hello TSF. Here's what I have. 1996 Ford Ranger XL Supercab 2wd. Yesterday my signal lights stopped working so I dropped into a local Auto parts store and picked up a signal light flasher. Installed it everything was fine. Later that day I tried the four way flashers. Left side front and rear are working but not the right. What puzzles me is that obviously the bulbs are good. Haven't checked all the fuses yet. Never seen this before.

**Basementgeek** · 09-30-2009, 05:09 PM

Are you sure that there is only one flasher?

BG

Nexxtech · 09-30-2009, 05:41 PM

Thanks for reply. Not sure good question BG. I haven't yet viewed a wiring schematic. I may have to pick up a detailed manual. Only other issue I noted was the OEM Flasher runs my trailer lights. I haven't used my trailer for months though. Two types of flashers should have been listed in auto catalogs for my truck given they run up to 8 bulbs for the trailer. Part's guy showed only one listing. Cost $24 so it is first line.

**Midnight Tech** · 09-30-2009, 05:55 PM

Could you post the brand, part number and where you got the flasher Nexxtech? That sounds awfully high....

Nexxtech · 09-30-2009, 06:13 PM

Ford. @71469. H252 Made in U.S.A. F4ZB-13350-BB. 2 (4) X 32CP-12V. DOT/SAE TBB89.

Nexxtech · 09-30-2009, 06:29 PM

EDIT. This was the OEM. The new one was Tridon. Part # EP27.

**Midnight Tech** · 09-30-2009, 09:43 PM

Looks like a 552 should work with no problems....about $4-5.

Nexxtech · 10-01-2009, 05:25 PM

This is what your suggesting. Wrong type. http://www.tessco.com/products/displ...93&eventPage=1. This is what I bought because the truck has W/Trailer package. http://www.autoparts2020.com/rsdev/b...?brand_id=1807. EP 27

**wrench97** · 10-01-2009, 06:11 PM

Yea flashers are`getting to be a Pita any more with the advent of L.E.D. lighting they now have a ground wire to load the circuit and make it flash, seems every engineer has to design his own style. The newer vehicles don't have one and use the cab or system controller to trigger the relays.

Nexxtech · 10-01-2009, 06:29 PM

Any thoughts on the the four way flasher issue? Noted today on one occasion that my signal lights did not work. This truck has little to no rust so I am wondering if my issues lie elseware. Steering column issue or signal light switch on the column.

**wrench97** · 10-02-2009, 01:16 AM

With the 4 ways on try moving the turn signal lever, to see if either the front or rear flash.

Nexxtech · 10-02-2009, 02:52 PM

Tried your idea today Wrench, no change on the 4 way flasher issue. Noticed today though the signal light stops flashing only once in a while when the steering wheel is turned as you are signaling. Likely something in the steering column or turn signal lever is causing this. Thanks for all your suggestions.

**wrench97** · 10-02-2009, 03:11 PM

Sounds like a switch problem.

Nexxtech · 10-02-2009, 04:22 PM

Only going to get worse too. The first initial indication may have been the shorting out the OEM Flasher. Safe to say the new flasher will eventually fail. If I can find a used one from a truck with lower mileage I might go this route first. From Ford new; expensive. Thanks.

**wrench97** · 10-02-2009, 04:38 PM

Should be this one> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/re.../dp/B000C5DU46

Nexxtech · 10-02-2009, 05:59 PM

Yeah that's it. Not sure if this is refurbished. Likely. Wasn't able to view a Canadian link.

**wrench97** · 10-03-2009, 03:20 AM

Look for a auto parts supplier that handles Motorcraft since there is a Motorcraft part number(SW5581) it will be substantially cheaper then under the Ford number and is the same part. And they are not refurbed.

**Midnight Tech** · 10-03-2009, 08:19 AM

Check your local NAPA store and see if they carry an Echlin DL6167 - that's the multifunction switch for hazaed and turn.

Nexxtech · 10-03-2009, 09:07 AM

Wrench your part number comes in at $103 and is available.

Midnight Tech Called Napa today they want $146.

Called APM auto parts they want $99. Has to be ordered in from Toronto/ no freight charge. I'll further post if I decide to dish out a $100. Thanks for your good suggestions.

09-30-2009, 03:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Four way Flashers only Flash two Hello TSF. Here's what I have. 1996 Ford Ranger XL Supercab 2wd. Yesterday my signal lights stopped working so I dropped into a local Auto parts store and picked up a signal light flasher. Installed it everything was fine. Later that day I tried the four way flashers. Left side front and rear are working but not the right. What puzzles me is that obviously the bulbs are good. Haven't checked all the fuses yet. Never seen this before.

09-30-2009, 05:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Basementgeek Moderator, Home Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Central Ohio, USA Posts: 1,485 OS: XP Pro SP2/Vista Ultimate SP2 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Are you sure that there is only one flasher? BG __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. Proud member of ASAP

09-30-2009, 05:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Thanks for reply. Not sure good question BG. I haven't yet viewed a wiring schematic. I may have to pick up a detailed manual. Only other issue I noted was the OEM Flasher runs my trailer lights. I haven't used my trailer for months though. Two types of flashers should have been listed in auto catalogs for my truck given they run up to 8 bulbs for the trailer. Part's guy showed only one listing. Cost $24 so it is first line.

09-30-2009, 05:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Midnight Tech Admin/Head GreaseMonkey/Igor's alter ego/Grand Exalted PoohBah Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SC Posts: 2,920 OS: Windows XP Home/Pro SP3/Windows 98SE/Fedora Core 6/RH 7.2 with Autopoint/TAMS II	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Could you post the brand, part number and where you got the flasher Nexxtech? That sounds awfully high.... __________________ Please post all questions in the appropriate forum. Questions sent by email or PM will not be answered. Sharing my life...with my Imzadi! Interested in Trek gaming? Check out the Dynaverse! Proud supporter of the Carolinas Aviation Museum. If we have helped you in any way, please donate to keep TSF up and running!

09-30-2009, 06:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Ford. @71469. H252 Made in U.S.A. F4ZB-13350-BB. 2 (4) X 32CP-12V. DOT/SAE TBB89.

09-30-2009, 06:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two EDIT. This was the OEM. The new one was Tridon. Part # EP27.

09-30-2009, 09:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Midnight Tech Admin/Head GreaseMonkey/Igor's alter ego/Grand Exalted PoohBah Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SC Posts: 2,920 OS: Windows XP Home/Pro SP3/Windows 98SE/Fedora Core 6/RH 7.2 with Autopoint/TAMS II	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Looks like a 552 should work with no problems....about $4-5. __________________ Please post all questions in the appropriate forum. Questions sent by email or PM will not be answered. Sharing my life...with my Imzadi! Interested in Trek gaming? Check out the Dynaverse! Proud supporter of the Carolinas Aviation Museum. If we have helped you in any way, please donate to keep TSF up and running!

10-01-2009, 05:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two This is what your suggesting. Wrong type. http://www.tessco.com/products/displ...93&eventPage=1. This is what I bought because the truck has W/Trailer package. http://www.autoparts2020.com/rsdev/b...?brand_id=1807. EP 27 Last edited by Nexxtech; 10-01-2009 at 05:27 PM.

10-01-2009, 06:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,459 OS: Win7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Yea flashers are`getting to be a Pita any more with the advent of L.E.D. lighting they now have a ground wire to load the circuit and make it flash, seems every engineer has to design his own style. The newer vehicles don't have one and use the cab or system controller to trigger the relays. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-01-2009, 06:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Any thoughts on the the four way flasher issue? Noted today on one occasion that my signal lights did not work. This truck has little to no rust so I am wondering if my issues lie elseware. Steering column issue or signal light switch on the column.

10-02-2009, 01:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,459 OS: Win7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two With the 4 ways on try moving the turn signal lever, to see if either the front or rear flash. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-02-2009, 02:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Tried your idea today Wrench, no change on the 4 way flasher issue. Noticed today though the signal light stops flashing only once in a while when the steering wheel is turned as you are signaling. Likely something in the steering column or turn signal lever is causing this. Thanks for all your suggestions.

10-02-2009, 03:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,459 OS: Win7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Sounds like a switch problem. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-02-2009, 04:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Only going to get worse too. The first initial indication may have been the shorting out the OEM Flasher. Safe to say the new flasher will eventually fail. If I can find a used one from a truck with lower mileage I might go this route first. From Ford new; expensive. Thanks.

10-02-2009, 04:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,459 OS: Win7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Should be this one> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/re.../dp/B000C5DU46 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-02-2009, 05:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Yeah that's it. Not sure if this is refurbished. Likely. Wasn't able to view a Canadian link.

10-03-2009, 03:20 AM	#17 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,459 OS: Win7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Look for a auto parts supplier that handles Motorcraft since there is a Motorcraft part number(SW5581) it will be substantially cheaper then under the Ford number and is the same part. And they are not refurbed. __________________ Power Supply and Selection Last edited by wrench97; 10-03-2009 at 03:26 AM.

10-03-2009, 08:19 AM	#18 (permalink)
Midnight Tech Admin/Head GreaseMonkey/Igor's alter ego/Grand Exalted PoohBah Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SC Posts: 2,920 OS: Windows XP Home/Pro SP3/Windows 98SE/Fedora Core 6/RH 7.2 with Autopoint/TAMS II	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Check your local NAPA store and see if they carry an Echlin DL6167 - that's the multifunction switch for hazaed and turn. __________________ Please post all questions in the appropriate forum. Questions sent by email or PM will not be answered. Sharing my life...with my Imzadi! Interested in Trek gaming? Check out the Dynaverse! Proud supporter of the Carolinas Aviation Museum. If we have helped you in any way, please donate to keep TSF up and running!

10-03-2009, 09:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
Nexxtech Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 481 OS: XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7	Re: Four way Flashers only Flash two Wrench your part number comes in at $103 and is available. Midnight Tech Called Napa today they want $146. Called APM auto parts they want $99. Has to be ordered in from Toronto/ no freight charge. I'll further post if I decide to dish out a $100. Thanks for your good suggestions.