1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start - Page 4

cardoc · 04-08-2008, 07:47 PM

Hi everyone
Raylo, banging the tank is like banging your old tv to get the picture back.You're just rattling worn out connections etc.Sometimes you get lucky.Speaking of luck,Vince ,good luck with the pump.
Cardoc

Raylo · 04-09-2008, 03:27 AM

Good luck with the FP, Vince. If you can, get most of the gas out of the tank before you drop it. Makes it a lot easier to handle. If you can't, having an extra body to help would be a good idea. Even a few gallons sloshing around can make things interesting.

I just got back from a road trip in my S10 pickup and it threw a SES light about 300 miles up the road. Luckily it kept running fine. I am hoping that it is just a random EGR code. Going to jack the computer in this AM to check. Who knows, maybe I'll soon be starting another thread about something. It's ALWAYS something!

**qldit** · 04-09-2008, 07:33 AM

Good Evening VincentBanuelos, It seems I missed a series of posts here, I made a stupid suggestion and see this is incorrect so please excuse my dopiness! LOL!!
Edited out (DUH!)

Cheers, qldit.

VincentBanuelos · 04-13-2008, 07:33 PM

Alright guy's, she's going to the doctor tomorrow!!!! I'll let you know what my mechanic tells me.

Thanks,

-Vince

VincentBanuelos · 04-17-2008, 03:01 PM

Alright guys, Mechanic thinks its timing STILL, it only has 55lbs of compression at all 6 cylinders. He will let me know more details later.

Thanks.

**qldit** · 04-18-2008, 08:28 PM

Good Morning VincentBanuelos, yes, inview of the balanced cylinder low pressures it is very likely the valve timing has moved.

Hopefully no love making between valves and pistons will have happened.

You can easily confirm valve timing is proper by removing a tappet cover and ensuring that #1 cylinder inlet and outlet valve tappet rockers are perfectly closed and "rocking" at the point when #1 piston is exactly at top dead centre on the inlet / exhaust stroke.

Lack of inlet air will give a lower compression across the entire cylinders because there will be no inlet air available at the correct time when the piston is on the intake stroke, thus that effect will result.

Best of luck there,

Cheers, qldit.

**bruiser** · 04-24-2008, 12:49 PM

Update?

VincentBanuelos · 05-06-2008, 09:26 AM

alright guys, update, mechanic said it was the timing chain and gears. When i looked at them they looked fine, but dunno? he's the mechanic. So, he replaces the gears, chain and tensioner's, it ran just fine without the cover on, so they put it allllll back together and now it wont start...

so they have to back track and figure out what went wrong. i will give everyone an update once i get one..

Thanks,
-Vince

Raylo · 05-12-2008, 05:03 PM

Any news, Vince? We are all wondering what kind of ghost (or gremlin) is in your machine.

VincentBanuelos · 05-12-2008, 10:53 PM

sorry raylo, as of right now, no news, im just as anxious as you are, mechanic is kind of backed up

. im going to call him first thing in the morning though to see whats going on. will keep you posted.

thanks,

-Vince

RIGHTE0US · 05-12-2008, 11:43 PM

Crank trigger is either off on the setting or they broke a wire

04-08-2008, 07:47 PM	#61 (permalink)
cardoc Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ct. Posts: 166 OS: win xp sp2	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Hi everyone Raylo, banging the tank is like banging your old tv to get the picture back.You're just rattling worn out connections etc.Sometimes you get lucky.Speaking of luck,Vince ,good luck with the pump. Cardoc

04-09-2008, 03:27 AM	#62 (permalink)
Raylo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 273 OS: XP Desktop, Vista HP Notebook, XP Notebook	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Good luck with the FP, Vince. If you can, get most of the gas out of the tank before you drop it. Makes it a lot easier to handle. If you can't, having an extra body to help would be a good idea. Even a few gallons sloshing around can make things interesting. I just got back from a road trip in my S10 pickup and it threw a SES light about 300 miles up the road. Luckily it kept running fine. I am hoping that it is just a random EGR code. Going to jack the computer in this AM to check. Who knows, maybe I'll soon be starting another thread about something. It's ALWAYS something! Last edited by Raylo : 04-09-2008 at 03:33 AM.

04-09-2008, 07:33 AM	#63 (permalink)
qldit TSF Gearhead Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia. Posts: 592 OS: All Systems, mainly Linux	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Good Evening VincentBanuelos, It seems I missed a series of posts here, I made a stupid suggestion and see this is incorrect so please excuse my dopiness! LOL!! Edited out (DUH!) Cheers, qldit. Last edited by qldit : 04-09-2008 at 07:42 AM.

04-13-2008, 07:33 PM	#64 (permalink)
VincentBanuelos Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 26 OS: Win xp pro service pack 2	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Alright guy's, she's going to the doctor tomorrow!!!! I'll let you know what my mechanic tells me. Thanks, -Vince

04-17-2008, 03:01 PM	#65 (permalink)
VincentBanuelos Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 26 OS: Win xp pro service pack 2	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Alright guys, Mechanic thinks its timing STILL, it only has 55lbs of compression at all 6 cylinders. He will let me know more details later. Thanks.

04-18-2008, 08:28 PM	#66 (permalink)
qldit TSF Gearhead Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia. Posts: 592 OS: All Systems, mainly Linux	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Good Morning VincentBanuelos, yes, inview of the balanced cylinder low pressures it is very likely the valve timing has moved. Hopefully no love making between valves and pistons will have happened. You can easily confirm valve timing is proper by removing a tappet cover and ensuring that #1 cylinder inlet and outlet valve tappet rockers are perfectly closed and "rocking" at the point when #1 piston is exactly at top dead centre on the inlet / exhaust stroke. Lack of inlet air will give a lower compression across the entire cylinders because there will be no inlet air available at the correct time when the piston is on the intake stroke, thus that effect will result. Best of luck there, Cheers, qldit.

04-24-2008, 12:49 PM	#67 (permalink)
bruiser TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,541 OS: xp	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Update?

05-06-2008, 09:26 AM	#68 (permalink)
VincentBanuelos Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 26 OS: Win xp pro service pack 2	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start alright guys, update, mechanic said it was the timing chain and gears. When i looked at them they looked fine, but dunno? he's the mechanic. So, he replaces the gears, chain and tensioner's, it ran just fine without the cover on, so they put it allllll back together and now it wont start... so they have to back track and figure out what went wrong. i will give everyone an update once i get one.. Thanks, -Vince

05-12-2008, 05:03 PM	#69 (permalink)
Raylo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 273 OS: XP Desktop, Vista HP Notebook, XP Notebook	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Any news, Vince? We are all wondering what kind of ghost (or gremlin) is in your machine.

05-12-2008, 10:53 PM	#70 (permalink)
VincentBanuelos Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 26 OS: Win xp pro service pack 2	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start sorry raylo, as of right now, no news, im just as anxious as you are, mechanic is kind of backed up. im going to call him first thing in the morning though to see whats going on. will keep you posted. thanks, -Vince

05-12-2008, 11:43 PM	#71 (permalink)
RIGHTE0US Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central NY Posts: 348 OS: VISTA/XP PRO SP2/HOME/ME/LINUX	Re: 1991 camaro rs v6 3.1 wont start Crank trigger is either off on the setting or they broke a wire