DOS is alive

jonjacobik · 09-08-2003, 05:37 PM

I've got a challenge. I've got to build a brand new DOS / Novell 4.1 server.

I'm hoping to start with a bare bones 2 ghz Alteon, and reformat the drive for FAT16, install DOS 5.1 and make it all work.

No problem . . right?

Will I be able to get an ethernet card to respond to DOS/Novell?

Will the motherboard work at all?

What challanges do you think I'll face?

Thanks a million

Jon

johnwill · 09-09-2003, 06:22 AM

Well, there are still DOS drivers for many NICs, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'd consider using the DOS from W98 to allow for FAT32 disks, so you can have volumes of a decent size. :)

You should have no issue booting DOS, I have a dual-boot to DOS on several machines to run unattended GHOST backups, it's never been a problem.

The part I'm not sure of is Netware drivers for DOS, it's not an area I have any experience in. :)

Skie · 04-05-2005, 08:40 AM

I believe the older Linksys/D-Link 10BaseT ethernet cards should have DOS drivers. I don't know where you can find one of these however. Check on ebay, i'm sure someone on there has one. I have worked with DOS machines on a network before, but not on a Novell network, so I can't help you there.

Oh, and I sent someone to kill DOS once and for all. Aparently, if I want something done right, I have to do it myself.

spiro3 · 04-17-2005, 05:29 PM

hi
yes unfortunatly DOS is still out there...

I have a quick question for someone.
i'm trying to rebuild an old studio computer with a new hard drive,
i first need to get hold of some Dos 6.22 installation disk on floppy.
i think i found some on, yes, you've gussed! Ebay, but the serial numbers are missing.

do i need the OEM serial number to install DOS on a new disk?

many thanks
spiro3

**LoneWolf071** · 04-18-2005, 12:12 PM

J/W, Why don't you use linux... (plug goes here) Linux is free, easy to make servers, and you can even get Novell for it?

**YeeFam** · 04-19-2005, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiro3

hi
yes unfortunatly DOS is still out there...

I have a quick question for someone.
i'm trying to rebuild an old studio computer with a new hard drive,
i first need to get hold of some Dos 6.22 installation disk on floppy.
i think i found some on, yes, you've gussed! Ebay, but the serial numbers are missing.

do i need the OEM serial number to install DOS on a new disk?

many thanks
spiro3

Do not ever remember having a number to install.

Now if you have a friend that has a Win98 machine, they could generate:
• bootable floppy for you
• copy the DOS stuff onto floppies
• FDISK your new drive in FAT32.

Then you could sys your harddrive to a bootable system disk.

I don't remember if 6.22 supported FAT32 or just FAT16

Skie · 04-19-2005, 04:43 PM

I don't ever remember needing a serial number for DOS. But then it's been years since I've installed it. As far as the FAT16/32 question, if I remember correctly, FAT32 didn't come out until Win95 B/Win98.

**YeeFam** · 04-20-2005, 06:03 AM

Win95 that supported FAT32 - information in the following link:
• http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jeacocke/windows2.htm

BishopNB · 07-20-2005, 09:34 AM

You don't need a serial number to install DOS 6.22. I believe the DOS partition size for a Novell 4.x server should be around 50Megs. The rest of the partition will be created and managed thru Novell.

I still have DOS 4.x, 5.x, and 6.x. I should sell them on E-bay. lol

09-08-2003, 05:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
jonjacobik Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 82 OS: xp/98	DOS is alive I've got a challenge. I've got to build a brand new DOS / Novell 4.1 server. I'm hoping to start with a bare bones 2 ghz Alteon, and reformat the drive for FAT16, install DOS 5.1 and make it all work. No problem . . right? Will I be able to get an ethernet card to respond to DOS/Novell? Will the motherboard work at all? What challanges do you think I'll face? Thanks a million Jon __________________ Jon

09-09-2003, 06:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 30,050 OS: XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Well, there are still DOS drivers for many NICs, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'd consider using the DOS from W98 to allow for FAT32 disks, so you can have volumes of a decent size. :) You should have no issue booting DOS, I have a dual-boot to DOS on several machines to run unattended GHOST backups, it's never been a problem. The part I'm not sure of is Netware drivers for DOS, it's not an area I have any experience in. :) __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-05-2005, 08:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
Skie Manager, Alternative Comp Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 1,821 OS: Gentoo Linux, Redhat Enterprise Linux, CentOS My System	I believe the older Linksys/D-Link 10BaseT ethernet cards should have DOS drivers. I don't know where you can find one of these however. Check on ebay, i'm sure someone on there has one. I have worked with DOS machines on a network before, but not on a Novell network, so I can't help you there. Oh, and I sent someone to kill DOS once and for all. Aparently, if I want something done right, I have to do it myself. __________________

04-17-2005, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
spiro3 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1 OS: mac os x	Dos 6.22 installation hi yes unfortunatly DOS is still out there... I have a quick question for someone. i'm trying to rebuild an old studio computer with a new hard drive, i first need to get hold of some Dos 6.22 installation disk on floppy. i think i found some on, yes, you've gussed! Ebay, but the serial numbers are missing. do i need the OEM serial number to install DOS on a new disk? many thanks spiro3

04-18-2005, 12:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
LoneWolf071 Be Free Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 833 OS: Windows XP, Linux	J/W, Why don't you use linux... (plug goes here) Linux is free, easy to make servers, and you can even get Novell for it? __________________ Suicide Command in Linux : rm -rf / ;) AIM:TheLoneWolf071@aim.com--If You Need Help, Don't Hesitate...

04-19-2005, 04:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Skie Manager, Alternative Comp Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 1,821 OS: Gentoo Linux, Redhat Enterprise Linux, CentOS My System	I don't ever remember needing a serial number for DOS. But then it's been years since I've installed it. As far as the FAT16/32 question, if I remember correctly, FAT32 didn't come out until Win95 B/Win98. __________________

04-20-2005, 06:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
YeeFam Mac Tech, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 254 OS: MAC OS X (Unix)	Win95 that supported FAT32 - information in the following link: • http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jeacocke/windows2.htm

07-20-2005, 09:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
BishopNB Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 11 OS: Windows XP	You don't need a serial number to install DOS 6.22. I believe the DOS partition size for a Novell 4.x server should be around 50Megs. The rest of the partition will be created and managed thru Novell. I still have DOS 4.x, 5.x, and 6.x. I should sell them on E-bay. lol