Newbie question:What's a shell session?!

crisis · 09-13-2003, 05:59 PM

Hi, I have Red Hat 9 installed. The sound doesn't work, and the qraphics are very slow. I have seen in other posts that people had to run 'Ismod' or 'Ispci' from a 'shell session' to tell what the problem was. What I want to know is; how do you do this, bearing in mind I have nearly no previous Linux experience. Do you just open a Terminal window and type them in?

Cheers.

**gotissues68** · 09-14-2003, 01:36 AM

shell session same thing as opening a terminal yep! Basically you'll hear someone say shell session.. easier then saying prompt :)

crisis · 10-18-2003, 08:47 AM

Ok, have now run lspci, get results:

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge
00:0f.0 Communication controller: Intel Corp. 536EP Data Fax Modem
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3)

Any ideas how I can get the sound working?

**gotissues68** · 10-19-2003, 05:57 AM

as root in a shell session

modprobe ac_97

That should get sound working, if it doesn't let me know and I'll see what other modules you need to load =)

crisis · 10-19-2003, 12:45 PM

Well I did that but I get:
[root@localhost sbin]# modprobe ac_97
modprobe: Can't locate module ac_97

Any ideas? Have also tried typing /sbin/modprobe ac_97 as you suggested in another post, but it gives the same message.

**gotissues68** · 10-19-2003, 10:39 PM

try modprobe via*

crisis · 10-20-2003, 07:34 AM

Well it didn't give any errors, but sound still doesn't work.
I've tried installing Alsa sound drivers, but when I got to inserting them into the kernel it didn't work. Have I mucked up the initial settings by doing this?
Installing drivers for Linux baffles me. Have to say this is one area where I resolutely prefer Windows.

**gotissues68** · 10-24-2003, 02:05 AM

You haven't mucked anything up. Can you modprobe via* for me again and then do an /sbin/lsmod and paste the output into a reply so I can see what loaded? And also I don't think its mentioned but what distribution are you using? Mandrake or Redhat, SuSE?

crisis · 10-24-2003, 04:49 AM

Ok, here's what I get:

Module Size Used by Tainted: P
agpgart 46752 3 (autoclean)
nvidia 1766848 11 (autoclean)
parport_pc 18756 1 (autoclean)
lp 8868 0 (autoclean)
parport 36480 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
autofs 12948 0 (autoclean) (unused)
via-rhine 15568 1
mii 3944 0 [via-rhine]
ipt_REJECT 3896 2 (autoclean)
iptable_filter 2380 1 (autoclean)
ip_tables 14648 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter]
sg 35980 0 (autoclean)
sr_mod 17912 0 (autoclean)
ide-scsi 11984 0
scsi_mod 106200 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi]
ide-cd 35196 0
cdrom 33472 0 [sr_mod ide-cd]
keybdev 2880 0 (unused)
mousedev 5428 1
hid 21700 0 (unused)
input 5792 0 [keybdev mousedev hid]
usb-uhci 25868 0 (unused)
ehci-hcd 19592 0 (unused)
usbcore 77696 1 [hid usb-uhci ehci-hcd]
ext3 69984 2
jbd 51220 2 [ext3]

I'm using Red Hat 9. It came with an issue of Pc Pro (as cd images on a DVD).

09-13-2003, 05:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
crisis Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: UK Posts: 51 OS: Win XP, Red Hat 9	Newbie question:What's a shell session?! Hi, I have Red Hat 9 installed. The sound doesn't work, and the qraphics are very slow. I have seen in other posts that people had to run 'Ismod' or 'Ispci' from a 'shell session' to tell what the problem was. What I want to know is; how do you do this, bearing in mind I have nearly no previous Linux experience. Do you just open a Terminal window and type them in? Cheers.

09-14-2003, 01:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
gotissues68 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Washington, Mountain View CA and Atlanta GA you pick the week! Posts: 716 OS: Linux/FreeBSD	shell session same thing as opening a terminal yep! Basically you'll hear someone say shell session.. easier then saying prompt :) __________________

10-19-2003, 05:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
gotissues68 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Washington, Mountain View CA and Atlanta GA you pick the week! Posts: 716 OS: Linux/FreeBSD	as root in a shell session modprobe ac_97 That should get sound working, if it doesn't let me know and I'll see what other modules you need to load =) __________________

10-19-2003, 10:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
gotissues68 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Washington, Mountain View CA and Atlanta GA you pick the week! Posts: 716 OS: Linux/FreeBSD	try modprobe via* __________________

10-24-2003, 02:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
gotissues68 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Washington, Mountain View CA and Atlanta GA you pick the week! Posts: 716 OS: Linux/FreeBSD	You haven't mucked anything up. Can you modprobe via* for me again and then do an /sbin/lsmod and paste the output into a reply so I can see what loaded? And also I don't think its mentioned but what distribution are you using? Mandrake or Redhat, SuSE? __________________

10-18-2003, 08:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
crisis Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: UK Posts: 51 OS: Win XP, Red Hat 9	Ok, have now run lspci, get results: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge 00:0f.0 Communication controller: Intel Corp. 536EP Data Fax Modem 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/686A/B PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3) Any ideas how I can get the sound working?

10-19-2003, 12:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
crisis Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: UK Posts: 51 OS: Win XP, Red Hat 9	Well I did that but I get: [root@localhost sbin]# modprobe ac_97 modprobe: Can't locate module ac_97 Any ideas? Have also tried typing /sbin/modprobe ac_97 as you suggested in another post, but it gives the same message.

10-20-2003, 07:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
crisis Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: UK Posts: 51 OS: Win XP, Red Hat 9	Well it didn't give any errors, but sound still doesn't work. I've tried installing Alsa sound drivers, but when I got to inserting them into the kernel it didn't work. Have I mucked up the initial settings by doing this? Installing drivers for Linux baffles me. Have to say this is one area where I resolutely prefer Windows.

10-24-2003, 04:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
crisis Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: UK Posts: 51 OS: Win XP, Red Hat 9	Ok, here's what I get: Module Size Used by Tainted: P agpgart 46752 3 (autoclean) nvidia 1766848 11 (autoclean) parport_pc 18756 1 (autoclean) lp 8868 0 (autoclean) parport 36480 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] autofs 12948 0 (autoclean) (unused) via-rhine 15568 1 mii 3944 0 [via-rhine] ipt_REJECT 3896 2 (autoclean) iptable_filter 2380 1 (autoclean) ip_tables 14648 2 [ipt_REJECT iptable_filter] sg 35980 0 (autoclean) sr_mod 17912 0 (autoclean) ide-scsi 11984 0 scsi_mod 106200 3 [sg sr_mod ide-scsi] ide-cd 35196 0 cdrom 33472 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] keybdev 2880 0 (unused) mousedev 5428 1 hid 21700 0 (unused) input 5792 0 [keybdev mousedev hid] usb-uhci 25868 0 (unused) ehci-hcd 19592 0 (unused) usbcore 77696 1 [hid usb-uhci ehci-hcd] ext3 69984 2 jbd 51220 2 [ext3] I'm using Red Hat 9. It came with an issue of Pc Pro (as cd images on a DVD).