Running Unix on Windows from CD?

bomba6 · 02-28-2005, 09:45 AM

Hello.
I'm using Windows XP Pro.
As part of my studies, we are using Unix in classes, and I want to be able work from home. (We are writing programs in C [using emacs])...

Is there any option to run Unix on my system, from the CD drive (I mean, without installing)?

Thanks!!

2ply · 02-28-2005, 10:50 AM

What you want is a Live version. This runs from a CD in your CD-ROM Drive. It does not involve any changes to your hard-drive. Because of that, it does run slower.

I'm not at home now, but hopefully someone can point you in the right direction to files for a Live version.

bomba6 · 02-28-2005, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2ply

What you want is a Live version. This runs from a CD in your CD-ROM Drive. It does not involve any changes to your hard-drive. Because of that, it does run slower.

I'm not at home now, but hopefully someone can point you in the right direction to files for a Live version.

Wow... thanks!
I do remember readin something about that...

If someone could please tell me more about that / showing me relevant links...

Thanks again 2ply

2ply · 02-28-2005, 10:02 PM

It all depends on what distro you plan on using. For some there might be live verions, some there might not. A good listing with all the downloads for distro's is http://www.linuxiso.org/

They have distro's listed there, with live versions and normal versions. Sorry I can't be of more help or anything, alittle on the sick side.

batty_professor · 02-28-2005, 11:07 PM

Initially I think you said "unix", but I'm sure you really mean Linux.Now, there is a very popular live distribution called Knoppix, But I'd like to suggest a smaller, leaner, distro' called Beatrix. http://www.watsky.net/ It fits in 182MB of a CD, and gets you from bootup to internet in less then a minute on many machines! I've had this up in a machine at work with 128MB of ram, but that cramped for space, it really struggles,and is really slow. But it did run, and found the web through the company network, without any operator input. There's also a stripped down version of Knoppix, with applications geared at c+/c++ , here's the link, https://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/htt...=distccKNOPPIX

batty_professor · 03-01-2005, 07:40 AM

BTW, when running these live CD's it doesn't matter what O/S you have on your hard drive, since it's not booted in the first place. You start the computer with the CD in, and boot from the CD.

bomba6 · 03-01-2005, 08:31 AM

1) I've download Knoppix, but faild to boot... I tried with nero, but there are so many defitition... I don't know what to choose: Floppy emulation, Hard disk emulation, No emulation... The HELP is not clear either...
Can someone please help me?

2) I found out that we are using Debian at the university. But Debian has no Live version... so it's not an option to me.

3) I will try batty_professor's idea. (Just when I know how to burn).

Many many thanks!
Guy.

batty_professor · 03-01-2005, 11:57 AM

The CD must be an ISO9660 format in order to be bootable.

batty_professor · 03-01-2005, 04:55 PM

More information on burning the CD here. http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html And here is a Debian-based distribution http://www.gnoppix.org/ .

bomba6 · 03-02-2005, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batty_professor

More information on burning the CD here. http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html And here is a Debian-based distribution http://www.gnoppix.org/ .

Thanks... I will try downloading Gnoppix... But there are so many files... and that MD5 file I keep seeing everywhere... Just don't know what to download, what to burn, and why Nero doing me problems.

http://source.rfc822.org/pub/local/gnoppix/
So many files... so many things... what should I download?? Do I need any kernels? Man, just wanted to install an emulator...

batty_professor · 03-02-2005, 07:38 AM

You need the .ISO file, it's like 699MB or so. You don't absolutely need the MD5sum file, but I suggest it. it's just a checksum of the file, that is used to make sure the download doesn't have any errors. All your burning issues should be addressed in the "how to burn" link I gave earlier. The ISO is gnoppix_0.8.1.iso

bomba6 · 03-03-2005, 10:37 AM

I've downloaded Gnoppix, which is great!! (Looks like Debian!) I tried to complie a program in C using "gcc", but then I got error saying: "Command not found"... )-: What am I doint wrong?
I was so happy to find "emacs", but no gcc?!

Your help is mostly needed.
Thanks,
Guy.

batty_professor · 03-03-2005, 06:27 PM

You might try this one. It's very minimalist, and might not be what you need either, but the good news is it's only 55MB. It does explicitly indicate gcc is included. http://www.linux.org/dist/download.html?ID=335

You'll need to click the link indicated in red on the page this leads to. Sorry, the target site is secure, so I know no other way.

bomba6 · 03-04-2005, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batty_professor

You might try this one. It's very minimalist, and might not be what you need either, but the good news is it's only 55MB. It does explicitly indicate gcc is included. http://www.linux.org/dist/download.html?ID=335

You'll need to click the link indicated in red on the page this leads to. Sorry, the target site is secure, so I know no other way.

Thank you very very much!! You are greate!
Just to let everyone know: there is not C-comiler in Gnoppix... they told me they are working on different ISO's for different purposes.. so now there isn't a C-compiler avaliable...

I will try out your link (I really need the "emacs" editor though...)..

Thanks again!!

02-28-2005, 09:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
bomba6 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17 OS: XP PRO	Running Unix on Windows from CD? Hello. I'm using Windows XP Pro. As part of my studies, we are using Unix in classes, and I want to be able work from home. (We are writing programs in C [using emacs])... Is there any option to run Unix on my system, from the CD drive (I mean, without installing)? Thanks!! Last edited by bomba6; 02-28-2005 at 09:47 AM.

02-28-2005, 11:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
batty_professor Asst. Manager, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hooterville Il 45 mi. east of St. Louis mo Posts: 2,608 OS: Fedora Core 5 for now	Initially I think you said "unix", but I'm sure you really mean Linux.Now, there is a very popular live distribution called Knoppix, But I'd like to suggest a smaller, leaner, distro' called Beatrix. http://www.watsky.net/ It fits in 182MB of a CD, and gets you from bootup to internet in less then a minute on many machines! I've had this up in a machine at work with 128MB of ram, but that cramped for space, it really struggles,and is really slow. But it did run, and found the web through the company network, without any operator input. There's also a stripped down version of Knoppix, with applications geared at c+/c++ , here's the link, https://opendoorsoftware.com/cgi/htt...=distccKNOPPIX __________________ It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me. B. While users are never under any obligation, if you feel the urge please feel free to visit our donation page. Every little bit helps. And we thank you for your support. Microsoft free Registered Linux user 397458

03-01-2005, 07:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
batty_professor Asst. Manager, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hooterville Il 45 mi. east of St. Louis mo Posts: 2,608 OS: Fedora Core 5 for now	BTW, when running these live CD's it doesn't matter what O/S you have on your hard drive, since it's not booted in the first place. You start the computer with the CD in, and boot from the CD. __________________ It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me. B. While users are never under any obligation, if you feel the urge please feel free to visit our donation page. Every little bit helps. And we thank you for your support. Microsoft free Registered Linux user 397458

03-01-2005, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
bomba6 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17 OS: XP PRO	Thanks again... got some problems 1) I've download Knoppix, but faild to boot... I tried with nero, but there are so many defitition... I don't know what to choose: Floppy emulation, Hard disk emulation, No emulation... The HELP is not clear either... Can someone please help me? 2) I found out that we are using Debian at the university. But Debian has no Live version... so it's not an option to me. 3) I will try batty_professor's idea. (Just when I know how to burn). Many many thanks! Guy.

03-01-2005, 11:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
batty_professor Asst. Manager, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hooterville Il 45 mi. east of St. Louis mo Posts: 2,608 OS: Fedora Core 5 for now	The CD must be an ISO9660 format in order to be bootable. __________________ It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me. B. While users are never under any obligation, if you feel the urge please feel free to visit our donation page. Every little bit helps. And we thank you for your support. Microsoft free Registered Linux user 397458

02-28-2005, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
2ply Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 85 OS: XP/FC3 Dual Boot	What you want is a Live version. This runs from a CD in your CD-ROM Drive. It does not involve any changes to your hard-drive. Because of that, it does run slower. I'm not at home now, but hopefully someone can point you in the right direction to files for a Live version.

02-28-2005, 10:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
2ply Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 85 OS: XP/FC3 Dual Boot	It all depends on what distro you plan on using. For some there might be live verions, some there might not. A good listing with all the downloads for distro's is http://www.linuxiso.org/ They have distro's listed there, with live versions and normal versions. Sorry I can't be of more help or anything, alittle on the sick side.

03-01-2005, 04:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
batty_professor Asst. Manager, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hooterville Il 45 mi. east of St. Louis mo Posts: 2,608 OS: Fedora Core 5 for now	More information on burning the CD here. http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html And here is a Debian-based distribution http://www.gnoppix.org/ . __________________ It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me. B. While users are never under any obligation, if you feel the urge please feel free to visit our donation page. Every little bit helps. And we thank you for your support. Microsoft free Registered Linux user 397458

03-02-2005, 07:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
batty_professor Asst. Manager, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hooterville Il 45 mi. east of St. Louis mo Posts: 2,608 OS: Fedora Core 5 for now	You need the .ISO file, it's like 699MB or so. You don't absolutely need the MD5sum file, but I suggest it. it's just a checksum of the file, that is used to make sure the download doesn't have any errors. All your burning issues should be addressed in the "how to burn" link I gave earlier. The ISO is gnoppix_0.8.1.iso __________________ It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me. B. While users are never under any obligation, if you feel the urge please feel free to visit our donation page. Every little bit helps. And we thank you for your support. Microsoft free Registered Linux user 397458

03-03-2005, 10:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
bomba6 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 17 OS: XP PRO	no gcc in Gnoppix?? I've downloaded Gnoppix, which is great!! (Looks like Debian!) I tried to complie a program in C using "gcc", but then I got error saying: "Command not found"... )-: What am I doint wrong? I was so happy to find "emacs", but no gcc?! Your help is mostly needed. Thanks, Guy.

03-03-2005, 06:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
batty_professor Asst. Manager, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hooterville Il 45 mi. east of St. Louis mo Posts: 2,608 OS: Fedora Core 5 for now	You might try this one. It's very minimalist, and might not be what you need either, but the good news is it's only 55MB. It does explicitly indicate gcc is included. http://www.linux.org/dist/download.html?ID=335 You'll need to click the link indicated in red on the page this leads to. Sorry, the target site is secure, so I know no other way. __________________ It's better to know me and not need me than to need me and not know me. B. While users are never under any obligation, if you feel the urge please feel free to visit our donation page. Every little bit helps. And we thank you for your support. Microsoft free Registered Linux user 397458