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Old 10-14-2008, 08:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have just installed Ubuntu 7.10, on my HP Vista PC. I have a cable connection. I don't have a problem with my Ethernet connection, using Vista.

So my problem is, how to setup Internet connection in ubuntu 7.10.

I know nothing about Linux\Ubuntu!

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi,

What should happen is that you plug the ethernet cable into your computer and Ubuntu reads that it is there and a few second (like 30) you are connected to the web. What is happening when you plug your ethernet cable into your nic?

Also, if you could open up a terminal, go to Applications menu and look for terminal. Then type lspci l=L not 1. Then just copy the output and paste it in your response.

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How come 7.10? Can you download/burn a copy of 8.04? Heck, 8.10 will be out soon!
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I agree, Bartender. 8.04 has worked well with the hardware of every machine I've used with it, as have related distros such as Mint, Kubuntu and the like.

@OP: I think you'll like the changes in the newer distro; they've made Ubuntu, IMO, easier to use, more compatible with various machines and hardware, and an even nicer distro. I've yet to have ethernet not be recognized with any version of Ubuntu. Maybe the distro is partial to the cheap machines with which I normally use it (mostly old very inexpensive eMachines LOL). In any case, I hope this problem is quickly resolved for you because Ubuntu is an excellent distro which you should find to be easy to use, refined, and very useful for everyday use.
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Hmmm, I wonder if the OP is even around any more? Anyway. I forgot to ask what kind of cable connection and if he's using a router. I know that Comcast doesn't work unless the Linux PC is behind a router. Comcast wants to see a Windows PC at the other end and a router gets you around that problem. I was reading a thread (either here or Ubuntu forums) just a coupla days ago that mentioned problems with Verizon that were easily circumvented but don't remember the details.
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I believe that the OP is still around. It would appear that he was here earlier today Dirk Stone. I remember reading something about that too recently. I can't find the thread though.

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Thanks, No luck with your suggestion, I did a fresh install with Ubuntu 8.04, no luck there. I can reboot to Vista and go online. I now have two extra partitions, one with Ubuntu 8.04 and one that has nothing.
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Thanks, I did a fresh install with Ubuntu 8.04. No luck. My Vista has no problem going on line. Same PC.
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Dirk -
In Vista, go into Device Manager and find out exactly how Vista describes the wireless device. We need to know whether it's an Atheros, Broadcom, or what-have-you card/chipset, and which model.

Ubuntu, and Linux in general, still has a rough time with some wireless cards. If the manufacturers cooperated with the Linux community more we'd have better Linux drivers.

So the Linux community has come up with various workarounds. ndiswrapper is one tool. It allows you to load Windows-based drivers to a Linux PC and get wireless working.

madwifi is another.

But first thing that's needed is your exact wireless device.

Vista goes online no prob because the manufacturer of the card took the time to write Vista drivers, but not Linux drivers. Send them a nasty e-mail!
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In Vista, go into Device Manager and find out exactly how Vista describes the wireless device. We need to know whether it's an Atheros, Broadcom, or what-have-you card/chipset, and which model.

Ubuntu, and Linux in general, still has a rough time with some wireless cards. If the manufacturers cooperated with the Linux community more we'd have better Linux drivers.

So the Linux community has come up with various workarounds. ndiswrapper is one tool. It allows you to load Windows-based drivers to a Linux PC and get wireless working.

madwifi is another.

But first thing that's needed is your exact wireless device.

Vista goes online no prob because the manufacturer of the card took the time to write Vista drivers, but not Linux drivers. Send them a nasty e-mail!
I am not using any wireless, i use a wired ethernet cable.
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Can I get you to please post the output from these: You need to run this in terminal.
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Whoops, sorry, for some reason I thought we were talking wireless.
What does your system look like? How exactly do you connect to the internet, and who is your ISP?
Reason I ask is there can be problems connecting to Verizon or Comcast if you plug directly into their modem. Some stupid thing about not being connected with a Windows PC. We discussed that recently on this forum. The best way to get around that is to install a router between the modem and the Linux PC.

So, who's your ISP?
Are you trying to connect directly to the modem?
Have you tried with a router between the modem and the Linux PC?

If you haven't, try borrowing a router from someone, unplug your modem from the AC outlet for a few minutes (turning it off isn't the same thing, you must physically unplug it) then connect the modem data out to the router data in, then plug the modem back in to AC, then turn on the router.
If the router has been set up with encryption, you'll have to know the passkeys. If it hasn't been, you should be able to just plug into the router and see a connection.
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Whoops, sorry, for some reason I thought we were talking wireless.
What does your system look like? How exactly do you connect to the internet, and who is your ISP?
Reason I ask is there can be problems connecting to Verizon or Comcast if you plug directly into their modem. Some stupid thing about not being connected with a Windows PC. We discussed that recently on this forum. The best way to get around that is to install a router between the modem and the Linux PC.

So, who's your ISP?
Are you trying to connect directly to the modem?
Have you tried with a router between the modem and the Linux PC?

If you haven't, try borrowing a router from someone, unplug your modem from the AC outlet for a few minutes (turning it off isn't the same thing, you must physically unplug it) then connect the modem data out to the router data in, then plug the modem back in to AC, then turn on the router.
If the router has been set up with encryption, you'll have to know the passkeys. If it hasn't been, you should be able to just plug into the router and see a connection.
Thanks, Bright House (Road Runner). I have a home wired network, with a router. I have 3 PC's on this lan. 2 with XP, 1 with Vista Home Premium, that i have created a partition and have installed Ubuntu 8.04. When i use Ternimal and input, ifconfig and lspci. I get the related info, but can't find any way to copy or print this info. All very confusing.
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Hi,

The easiest way to copy all the information, is to highlight it. Just click and hold and highlight all the information. Then just paste it all into the reply box and you will be all set.

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Another option for grabbing information off the Linux partition is to plug in a thumb drive. It should be recognized with an icon on the Linux desktop. Copy and paste like wmorri suggests, but paste into an OpenOffice document.
How to do that?
In Linux, go to Applications>Office, open Writer. I think a new document will open automatically. Type the commands wmorrit gave you in terminal. Paste the information from terminal into the document.
If you have OpenOffice on your Windows PC, then just File>Save, give it a name. Save it to the thumb drive, come on back to Windows, open the document from the thumb drive, and post the information.
If you have Word on your Windows PC, then File>Save As. In the new window click on the "Save as type" box, and look for an option that says "W2K,XP, Word97" or something very similar to that. OpenOffice will save the document as a .doc! Save to the thumbdrive, go back to Windows, find the saved document, open it in Word.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

Hey, one more thing. wmorri, is the IPV6 thing still causing headaches for some people? I remember a year or two ago, lots of people were unable to get online because Ubuntu uses the newest IPV6 standard instead of IPV4 by default, and lots of older routers can't handle it.

To the OP, look into disabling IPV6.
Here's a tutorial from Ubuntu that I had to use for a friend and his old router.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
It's not hard, but if you've never done anything in terminal it will seem like it is. There may be easier ways to disable IPV6 now. It's worth trying anyway.
Oh, that's right - disabling IPV6 in Firefox is relatively easy. Google that, try disabling IPV6 in Firefox. If you can get onto the internet with Firefox, then you know you need to disable IPV6 across the entire Linux install, which means going back to that link I gave you or using an easier way.
EDIT: You might find this easier to follow:
http://neoaddict.wordpress.com/2007/...pv6-in-ubuntu/

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Bartender,

I am not sure about whether ubuntu fixed their IPV6 problems or not. I would guess that they did as I haven't had any problems with it and as you say it was a while ago. That would give the greater linux community time to figure out a general fix and implement it. Also, i haven't seen too many questions on the forum about it which helps my case too.

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