Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use.

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 01:56 PM

I'm in need of some linux configuring help badly!

I bought a Shuttle XP computer that came with Linux. This shuttle doesn't have a CD drive, so I connected a USB cd writer/reader.

The retailer said that I should be able to access bios and change the boot order to boot from USB...which I already thought was odd, since I never really heard Bios and Linux being in the same sentence.

When I got to trying to set it up, I ran into exactly the problem I thought I would. At the start screen, it told me to press f-11 to enter setup or else it would boot Fedora fc8 as the OS. So I hit the button and now I have NO CLUE how to get it to boot from usb-CD so I can install XP-Pro since this is only for business use.

Please help someone! I'll be obcessivly checking back on this forum since I kind of have to have it set up and running by tmr morning....hopefully someone will see this sooner than later!!

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 02:18 PM

hi,

when you hit F11, what screen did you see next?

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 02:19 PM

specs of new computer.

shuttle xpc,
OS: Fedora (2.6.23.1-42. fc8)

Want to install: Windows XP-PRO using a usb-CD drive.

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 02:22 PM

I saw a screen that asked me what OS I wanted to Run.

The only choice was Fedora fc8.

There's some options at the bottem, and they are as follows:

"'enter' to select OS, 'e' to edit commands before booting, 'a'to mod kernel arguments before booting, and 'c' for command-line

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 02:24 PM

try hitting DEL or F1 at boot up or on the first splash screen if there is one.

what you have seen with the choices of operating system is GRUB. it has went past the screen where you can still go into BIOS settings.

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 02:41 PM

OOooooh I see.

Wow what a relief. Thank you SO much TriggerFinger!! I gotta learn some linux soon so I dont' get stumped like that hahha

Thanks again,
Cheers!

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 02:52 PM

does that mean you got into BIOS settings?

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 03:26 PM

sigh....so I got the booth priority to work now....but

After it says "press any key to boot from CD"
and after it shows the "inspecting your system....."

I get a black screen with nothing...and the CD drive doesn't seem to be blinking / working
and the computer isn't really making any "working noise"

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 03:28 PM

Yeah, I got into bios now, hahaha

but I changed the boot priority to the following:

first: USB-CD
second: HDD
Third: USB zip

I've also tried(altho im not sure if it affects it at all):
first: USB-CD
second: USB-CD
third: USBzip

I just get the a black screen...

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 03:28 PM

oh ok... it could be your RAM. try using another one, a bigger one if possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by parttimetechguy

Yeah, I got into bios now, hahaha

but I changed the boot priority to the following:

first: USB-CD
second: HDD
Third: USB zip

I've also tried(altho im not sure if it affects it at all):
first: USB-CD
second: USB-CD
third: USBzip

I just get the a black screen...

the first one above should work OK. the black screen could be RAM.

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 03:37 PM

Processor Intel Celeron Dual E1200
Motherboard Intel 945GC Chipset + ICH7
Memory 1GB DDR2 667Mhz
Graphics Intel GMA 950 Graphics
Hard Drive 80GB 7200rpm SATA
Optical Drive None
Sound Card Realtek ALC662 5.1 Channel High Definition audio
Chassis Shuttle K45
I/O Ports USB 2.0, 10/100/1000 LAN
Power Supply 100W
Operating System Free (Fedora)

Is 1gig ram not enough to install xp?
I'm not sure but if it is ram, that means I just gotta run out to get more....if the store's not closed :S

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 03:49 PM

sorry for the confusion... what i meant was try to use another one (i did not know you were using 1GB, i thought it was even way lower. 1GB is enough in fact probably more for XP

), to know if it is malfunctioning or not. of course it can be other things as well.

since the blackout happens during the initial part of loading of Windows, it could be RAM or HDD. to be sure, run some tests on your RAM. get Memtest86+ (link on my sig). d/load the ISO.zip, extract to your PC and burn the image into CD. boot from your CD drive using that CD. the diags will start automatically.

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 04:29 PM

hrmm okay,
So I downloaded the memtest, and it's running now.

Can it be HDD? Since at the screen I can actually continue and start loading / configuring fedora if I let it run. I just assume it's pre-installed on the HDD and if that's working, I can eliminate that from what I need to test?

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parttimetechguy

hrmm okay,
So I downloaded the memtest, and it's running now.

Can it be HDD? Since at the screen I can actually continue and start loading / configuring fedora if I let it run. I just assume it's pre-installed on the HDD and if that's working, I can eliminate that from what I need to test?

-- yup if Fedora can boot and run without problems then it could not be the HDD nor the RAM.

-- you mentioned this to be SATA, did you reach the part where you should load SATA drivers?

parttimetechguy · 05-04-2008, 04:49 PM

I don't think I did...
I'm not sure where that part is actually,

I get up to the part where it asks you
"press any key to boot from CD"

Then it loads another black screen with one line of text at the top that goes something like "Inspecting system something something...." (goes by too fast to read)

After that it SHOULD load a blue screen right? That's when I think it loads drivers and such and then you get to pick which partition to install it on...etc etc?

SO....if I got the order correct, the screen goes black before drivers load?

**TriggerFinger** · 05-04-2008, 04:58 PM

yup you got the order right. the screen to load third party drivers (press F6) come before the loading of drivers.

so did Fedora run without problems?

do you have any other XP install CDs that you can use?

05-04-2008, 01:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. I'm in need of some linux configuring help badly! I bought a Shuttle XP computer that came with Linux. This shuttle doesn't have a CD drive, so I connected a USB cd writer/reader. The retailer said that I should be able to access bios and change the boot order to boot from USB...which I already thought was odd, since I never really heard Bios and Linux being in the same sentence. When I got to trying to set it up, I ran into exactly the problem I thought I would. At the start screen, it told me to press f-11 to enter setup or else it would boot Fedora fc8 as the OS. So I hit the button and now I have NO CLUE how to get it to boot from usb-CD so I can install XP-Pro since this is only for business use. Please help someone! I'll be obcessivly checking back on this forum since I kind of have to have it set up and running by tmr morning....hopefully someone will see this sooner than later!!

05-04-2008, 02:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
TriggerFinger Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LV, NV, USA Posts: 3,829 OS: DOS 6.0	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. hi, when you hit F11, what screen did you see next? __________________ DBAN - Memtest86+ - BartPE - Linux LiveCD list - ImgBurn - HDD Diagnostic Tools - Everest

05-04-2008, 02:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. specs of new computer. shuttle xpc, OS: Fedora (2.6.23.1-42. fc8) Want to install: Windows XP-PRO using a usb-CD drive.

05-04-2008, 02:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. I saw a screen that asked me what OS I wanted to Run. The only choice was Fedora fc8. There's some options at the bottem, and they are as follows: "'enter' to select OS, 'e' to edit commands before booting, 'a'to mod kernel arguments before booting, and 'c' for command-line

05-04-2008, 02:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
TriggerFinger Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LV, NV, USA Posts: 3,829 OS: DOS 6.0	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. try hitting DEL or F1 at boot up or on the first splash screen if there is one. what you have seen with the choices of operating system is GRUB. it has went past the screen where you can still go into BIOS settings. __________________ DBAN - Memtest86+ - BartPE - Linux LiveCD list - ImgBurn - HDD Diagnostic Tools - Everest Last edited by TriggerFinger : 05-04-2008 at 02:26 PM.

05-04-2008, 02:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. OOooooh I see. Wow what a relief. Thank you SO much TriggerFinger!! I gotta learn some linux soon so I dont' get stumped like that hahha Thanks again, Cheers!

05-04-2008, 02:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
TriggerFinger Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LV, NV, USA Posts: 3,829 OS: DOS 6.0	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. does that mean you got into BIOS settings? __________________ DBAN - Memtest86+ - BartPE - Linux LiveCD list - ImgBurn - HDD Diagnostic Tools - Everest

05-04-2008, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. sigh....so I got the booth priority to work now....but After it says "press any key to boot from CD" and after it shows the "inspecting your system....." I get a black screen with nothing...and the CD drive doesn't seem to be blinking / working and the computer isn't really making any "working noise"

05-04-2008, 03:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. Yeah, I got into bios now, hahaha but I changed the boot priority to the following: first: USB-CD second: HDD Third: USB zip I've also tried(altho im not sure if it affects it at all): first: USB-CD second: USB-CD third: USBzip I just get the a black screen...

05-04-2008, 03:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. Processor Intel Celeron Dual E1200 Motherboard Intel 945GC Chipset + ICH7 Memory 1GB DDR2 667Mhz Graphics Intel GMA 950 Graphics Hard Drive 80GB 7200rpm SATA Optical Drive None Sound Card Realtek ALC662 5.1 Channel High Definition audio Chassis Shuttle K45 I/O Ports USB 2.0, 10/100/1000 LAN Power Supply 100W Operating System Free (Fedora) Is 1gig ram not enough to install xp? I'm not sure but if it is ram, that means I just gotta run out to get more....if the store's not closed :S

05-04-2008, 03:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
TriggerFinger Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LV, NV, USA Posts: 3,829 OS: DOS 6.0	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. sorry for the confusion... what i meant was try to use another one (i did not know you were using 1GB, i thought it was even way lower. 1GB is enough in fact probably more for XP ), to know if it is malfunctioning or not. of course it can be other things as well. since the blackout happens during the initial part of loading of Windows, it could be RAM or HDD. to be sure, run some tests on your RAM. get Memtest86+ (link on my sig). d/load the ISO.zip, extract to your PC and burn the image into CD. boot from your CD drive using that CD. the diags will start automatically. __________________ DBAN - Memtest86+ - BartPE - Linux LiveCD list - ImgBurn - HDD Diagnostic Tools - Everest Last edited by TriggerFinger : 05-04-2008 at 03:51 PM.

05-04-2008, 04:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. hrmm okay, So I downloaded the memtest, and it's running now. Can it be HDD? Since at the screen I can actually continue and start loading / configuring fedora if I let it run. I just assume it's pre-installed on the HDD and if that's working, I can eliminate that from what I need to test?

05-04-2008, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
parttimetechguy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 29 OS: Xp Pro	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. I don't think I did... I'm not sure where that part is actually, I get up to the part where it asks you "press any key to boot from CD" Then it loads another black screen with one line of text at the top that goes something like "Inspecting system something something...." (goes by too fast to read) After that it SHOULD load a blue screen right? That's when I think it loads drivers and such and then you get to pick which partition to install it on...etc etc? SO....if I got the order correct, the screen goes black before drivers load?

05-04-2008, 04:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
TriggerFinger Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LV, NV, USA Posts: 3,829 OS: DOS 6.0	Re: Comp CAME WITH LINUX, but I need XP for business use. yup you got the order right. the screen to load third party drivers (press F6) come before the loading of drivers. so did Fedora run without problems? do you have any other XP install CDs that you can use? __________________ DBAN - Memtest86+ - BartPE - Linux LiveCD list - ImgBurn - HDD Diagnostic Tools - Everest Last edited by TriggerFinger : 05-04-2008 at 05:04 PM.