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Old 10-30-2005, 09:06 AM   #11 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36
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Originally Posted by linderman
I guess it's just a matter of what are you willing to accept from our goverment ???? I think we deserve more integrity, why is Bill Frist still lose when Martha Stewart was in camp Cup Cake for the same thing ????????
I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that Martha was convicted by a jury of her peers and was found guilty and Mr. Frist was not to the best of my knowledge.

Are you telling me that Frist has been tried by a jury of his peers and no one knows about it. If you know something no one else does, then bring it forward so we can get rid of the guy. It just seems that we are so quick to convict someone who has not been proven guilty.

I would not want anyone to do that to me or would not want them to do that to you, so Mr. Frist deserves the same justice and we need to wait and see. If he is guilty as Martha was, then I firmly believe he should do jail time, I can agree with you on that one. I don't care who he is, or what party he belongs to, or how rich he is, the law is the law. He must be held to the same standard that linderman would be.

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Originally Posted by linderman
justice is a commodity / bought and sold by those with the power and the money ?????
I agree with you to some degree. However, there aren't many who are as rich as Martha Steward was and she did the time. I just think totally, the courts are out of control in many ways so justice as we know it isn't always equal and it certainly should be the same for all. Power and money do talk and we both know that. If the courts were not out of control (and attorneys in general), then this might not be the case.

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Originally Posted by linderman
Tumble >>>> why are we in Iraq ???????????????????? what is our goal ???? I find it deplorable that we invaded another country / got 2,000 servicement killed / plunged our economy in devastation and for what purpose ??? I personally backed the invasion based on the evidence.
Well, we are in Iraq because President Cllinton, President Bush, Secretary of State Powell, British Prime Minister Blair, Congress of the United States, and everyone else in the world was given bad information by the CIA. The CIA misled everyone for the past ten years on this one and that is sad. It is a mess and we both know that. I also find the total situation deplorable.

Our goal is to get out as soon as possible and not have a bloodbath by withdrawing before the Iraqi military is able to ensure order in that country and not have a civil war. When will that be? I don't know and certainly wish it could be next week or so, but that is not practical. If we say it is next week, we both know the insurgents will simply wait until we withdraw and then kill hundreds of thousands like they did before Saddam was gone.

Bush made a bad mistake in my opinion. No, I am not talking about the invasion which we all (even you) thought was justified, but in not cleaning house at the CIA when he found out that he had received faulty information. I fault him for that. He should have fired everone who had anything to do with information that was that corrupted.


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Originally Posted by linderman
We will ever see a president with integrity again ????? Reagan looked like a god compared to the ***** clinton & the thief bush
I just wondered where the comment came from about the "thief Bush"? What data or information did you base that on? Please share that information with us so we know more about President Bush.

I sure do hope we see another great one, but there is no way to tell. Great presidents are few and far between and we both know that neither Clinton or Bush fit into that category with the information that we have at the present time. I don't think either one are were/are great and I also think history will bear me out as making a true assessment from what they both have done.

Hey linderman, hope you have a great day!
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