This a new thread to continue our discussion of taxes that started over in the Democrat/Republican thread. - yustr
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Originally Posted by crazijoe
My biggest pet peave is dependents and schools. I don't like the way this government has catered to 'families'. If you have children, you get tax breaks. Come on now. Children are a responsibility. If you can't afford them quit producing them. My wife and I do not have kids nor do we plan on having any. I get sick and tired of people saying "Oh I'm getting back 5K because of my kids".
I pay school tax which is the biggest chunk of my property tax. And yet I have no kids. However Miss Johnson, who has 6 children and a live in boyfriend, living in the projects, on welfare, does not pay for these schools.
I would rather pay a healthy sales tax then pay income tax or property tax. That way you know everyone pays.
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And why shouldn't the government cater to families? I have a six year old daughter and three year old twin boys. I had to buy 2 cribs, 2 high chairs etc. For a while, I was spending almost $300 a month on formula, diapers and baby food. Also, parents are spenders. I buy food to feed them, I buy all of their clothes, all of their school supplies, all of their medicines, all of their entertainment. If we get pizza, I have to buy more than the DINKS (Dual Income, No Kids) because my one son can crush a pizza. The reason I get "catered" to is because I am spending most of my personal income on my kids.
In Ohio, you can only be on welfare for so long, so Miss Johnson's scenario won't last long here. And my school district gets its state monies, county dollars and 1% of my and everyone else's income, so I am paying for my schools that way.
But here is my bravado: I make pretty decent money. I consider myself middle class. I pay for health insurance through work, which is not taxable. Family health care is expensive. I get to deduct that on my taxes along with my children and wife; I don't itemize. The I get to subtract $1000 per kid from my tax that I have to pay. So if my tax burden for my taxable income is 2300, I subtract 3000 and get -$700. I got every dime I paid to the feds back, plus that $700 differnece. While it may not seem fair to the DINKS out there, the government know that I am going to put that money back into the economy. Kids grow, I am guaranteed to buy shoes and spring/summer clothes every April 15. Thank GOD for the child tax credit.
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I usually find myself thinking why vote, it won't count. Mainly because I'm in Nebraska which is a prodominatly Rebublican state. But I vote so I can have a voice.
The last election and the election before, I voted for Nader. I can't stand the guy, but I agreed with more of his views than with any other canadate. And I don't want to hear "you threw that vote away, it should have went to so-in-so so they could have won" or "Nader shouldn't be running because he is taking away so-in-so's votes". I'm sorry but in order to get my vote, you have to earn it. In my opinion neither R or D earned it.
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I felt the same way when I lived in Kansas in the 96 election. Dole was going to win it anyways and their # of electoral votes didn't matter much so I voted absentee back to Ohio. Our 20 EV makes us pretty important. The only way a third party will flourish is if one party gets almost complete control like the democrats did over the whigs and the republicans were born.