tony007

Thanks Joeten I managed to do it using my xp computer the same way as in the video on u tube. I tried the same on vista using nero9 it did'ent work also same on windows 7 using nero 7 that did'ent work either but it did using nero 7 on xp. So I think it must be something to do with the operating systems. That link is very interesting I looked at burn aware free that may be worth purchasing also looked at the manual method for erasing dvd's it looked a bit rough but maybe it will work. But the best was erasing a cd r using the microwave I would never have thought of that, theres a few more to look at yet and I will. Thanks a lot to all for the help.